premiere + xvid = nuclear disaster

Pwolf · Post by **Pwolf** » Tue May 02, 2006 4:40 pm

you can also learn avisynth. wrap a script around the xvid ecodes. it's not a good way of doing it, but it's better then using xvid directly.

Pwolf

DJ_Izumi · Post by **DJ_Izumi** » Tue May 02, 2006 4:41 pm

I'd suggest agianst that because it'd be very laggy...

Well, you use XviD in Premiere anyway so I guess you'd be pretty used to editing being an experiance in incredably lag. :/

Pwolf · Post by **Pwolf** » Tue May 02, 2006 4:43 pm

DJ_Izumi wrote:I'd suggest agianst that because it'd be very laggy...

Well, you use XviD in Premiere anyway so I guess you'd be pretty used to editing being an experiance in incredably lag. :/

it's also not frame accurate (same as editing directly with xvid though)

Pwolf

Melanchthon · Post by **Melanchthon** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:20 pm

Us@gi wrote:i don't have a godly hdd nor i like making clips
so i guess i'll try lagarith and if it doesn't work i'll make things work somehow aloneas i do most of the time

I wrote a long post on this, but I forgot I wasn't on auto-login on this computer and I lost it.

So, in summary--

If you have a small hard drive and still want hours of footage, skip the lossless codecs. Mjpegs decode quickly and edit frame-perfect, but I'm not sure how high the quality has to be in order to avoid mosquito noise and blockiness. It depends on your source as well. The more action and/or sharp outlines and borders your source has, the higher the quality settings need to be in order to avoid artifacts.

Purge · Post by **Purge** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:45 pm

TO use xvid in prem, this works for me
- the fourCC has to be DIVX for it to dsplay picture
- and to avoid lag/frame accuracy errors altogether you need to keyframe every 1 frame of the encode = alota space anyway if you go max quality

Pwolf · Post by **Pwolf** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:48 pm

well, changing the FourCC will only tell the OS/program which decoder to use. but if you are using the same decoder to decode both xvid and divx, it wont make a single difference.

Pwolf

DJ_Izumi · Post by **DJ_Izumi** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:49 pm

Isn't decoding XviD with DivX sometimes... Bad? I've had weird blocks when decoding such video in Vdub when it was using the wrong codec.

Purge · Post by **Purge** » Tue May 02, 2006 10:16 pm

Pwolf wrote:well, changing the FourCC will only tell the OS/program which decoder to use. but if you are using the same decoder to decode both xvid and divx, it wont make a single difference.

Pwolf

hmm its the factor that decides for my version of premiere whether i get the black screen or not with xvid files. I think that on my PC im using two different decoders, one for xvid and one for divX files. It may be that you also need the codec from DIVX for this to work then. i think i get it now.

And i haven't had any problems with it DJ_Izumi but i'm not worrying about quality because i use xvid for bait and switch so maybe your right.

Us@gi · Post by **Us@gi** » Wed May 03, 2006 6:12 am

i've used fourcc
sometimes it works but most of the time xvid crashes
and i mean umaniac's xvid
it never works with xvid koepi build or mpeg4
i never got a picture out of these
it works if i remove xvid and use divx only but the lag is unbeliavable and there are pixels in the picture
so i guess i'll try mjpeg and there is the every keyframe option

Chibi war · Post by **Chibi war** » Wed May 03, 2006 7:14 am

ZOMGAWD! Pixels in the image

Gotta hate pixels. [/offtopic]