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Post by Cornwiggle » Wed May 10, 2006 10:59 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:If the series can support filler there's nothing wrong with it. Now, by "support", I refer to the general pacing and tone of the series. If non-plot intensive, fancy-free (fanservice or otherwise) episodes are already present in the series on a frequent enough basis, and the causal viewer wouldn't know anything is up then there's absolutely no problem with it. If filler detracts from the mood significantly, however, it realy hurts the series.

Now, of course, the example of Naruto shows how little the people in charged followed this little design structure. Naruto has an insanely large audience and a stranglehold on them and can therefore get away with stuff like this. Then there's always the fact that the audience they're marketing to is 10 YEARS OLD!!! I don't care what country you're in, a 10 year old isn't any proper judge of taste in terms of entertainment. Throw popular crap at them and they'll eat it up; especially if it was good at some point.

Just because something isn't in the manga it was based off of, doesn't mean it's crap though. Wasn't most of FMA filler? Last I heard, that was doing rather well for itself. The only thing that Filler automatically tells you is that important charcters are definately not going to die or become diferent in any way, but hell, look at a lot of anime that has the random beach or hotspring adventure episodes in their plot to begin with. Does that fact really make them any better?

I think the big problem with most filler is that the writers the animation teams have can't write (supprise!) and when they don't have the manga to go from, they really can't come up with good plot to save their asses. I imagine it's intentionally like that though. I'd wager the manga production team has their hand in making sure noone on the animation team will upstage them in terms of writing good plot. If they did, who would need the manga team? They'd be out of a job.

Half of it was different from the manga. That's not what I classify "filler" as though. It still moved with its new plot. "Filler" means it has nothing to do with the plot.
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Post by Heero_Yuy84 » Wed May 10, 2006 11:28 pm

I'm willing to look the other way if the filler is entertaining (example, Big O act 18 'The Greatest Villain' was, for the most part, a filler ep...but it was a damned fun one as well.)
However...the majority of the times when they do a filler ep...it always feels incredibly forced (varying from just bad to flat out awful...there was one InuYasha filler I got exposed to that still haunts me to this day because of how ridiculously bad it was.)
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Post by Cornwiggle » Wed May 10, 2006 11:48 pm

Heero_Yuy84 wrote:I'm willing to look the other way if the filler is entertaining (example, Big O act 18 'The Greatest Villain' was, for the most part, a filler ep...but it was a damned fun one as well.)
However...the majority of the times when they do a filler ep...it always feels incredibly forced (varying from just bad to flat out awful...there was one InuYasha filler I got exposed to that still haunts me to this day because of how ridiculously bad it was.)
Horrible Inuyasha filler? You mean...all of it? Even the plot. :)
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Post by hellswolf » Thu May 11, 2006 12:23 am

when will the damn naruto fillers end people the manga is better believe me

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Post by x_rex30 » Thu May 11, 2006 12:34 am

BasharOfTheAges wrote:Then there's always the fact that the audience they're marketing to is 10 YEARS OLD!!!
Thanks for explaining that for the hundredth time.

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Post by MovieMarc » Thu May 11, 2006 12:35 am

because if hellswolf says so, it must be true. :roll:
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Post by x_rex30 » Thu May 11, 2006 12:39 am

MovieMarc wrote:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:Just because something isn't in the manga it was based off of, doesn't mean it's crap though.

thats not why i think naruto was crap, im not gonna get into detail here cause this isnt the place for it, but when an 25 minute (give or take) anime gives you 20 minutes of flash backs and 4 minutes of new story on an every other episode basis
oh please give me a few your basing this off of. If the flashbacks are that bothersome, know that so far only 5% of the series has shown scenes with flashbacks, and probably less of flashbacks of things that happened in previous episodes. OK thnx, goodbye.

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Post by x_rex30 » Thu May 11, 2006 12:45 am

Oh, best filler episode ever of any anime is Episode 101 of Naruto. It was one of my favorite episodes from the series.. I laughed my ass off.

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Post by MovieMarc » Thu May 11, 2006 12:47 am

theres no such thing as a "best filler episode" they all suck.
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Post by x_rex30 » Thu May 11, 2006 12:50 am

MovieMarc wrote:theres no such thing as a "best filler episode" they all suck.
see how close minded you are?

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