We need a leader

[1stAgent]

1) If the Next Big Thing does come, it will be truly that- something so far ahead of us that none of us can picture it.

2) Whoever makes it, they either aren't on this board, lurking and not posting, or making relatively innocuous comments that nobody listens to.

3) The Next Big Thing will not be on the Top 10% for more than three months.

4) Whoever makes it, their first video probably sucked.

5) My first video didn't suck. Dammit.

6) I'm one of the many still making for my own personal enjoyment and hoping that *somebody* out there will like it enough to leave an opinion, cheer at a convention screening, or publicly proclaim "That was a good video" at ACen's "How Not To Make An AMV" panel.

7) Thank you to the two of you that shouted "That was a good video" when the panelist let me plug my Kino's Journey AMV at ACen's "How Not To Make An AMV" panel.

8) Three of ACen's contest winners would have fallen under the panelist's "How Not To Make An AMV" gripes.

I'm done.

[BishounenStalker]

Why is it every time I consider remembering this forum exists, I run into pretentious griping from elitist wankers who take this hobby Way Too Seriously?

AMVs are fun. People, in general, make them for fun/. If they wanted to push boundaries and raise the bar and be general high-and-mighty artiste-types, they would. But they don't. And nobody has to be.

We don't need a leader. We need the wannabe leaders to chill out.

*foes back to plugging her ears and pretending this place doesn't have forums*

[Beowulf]

Why is it every time I consider remembering this forum exists, I run into pretentious griping from elitist wankers who take this hobby Way Too Seriously?

AMVs are fun. People, in general, make them for fun/. If they wanted to push boundaries and raise the bar and be general high-and-mighty artiste-types, they would. But they don't. And nobody has to be.

We don't need a leader. We need the wannabe leaders to chill out.

*foes back to plugging her ears and pretending this place doesn't have forums*

I don't think anyone in this thread is talking about being an elitist. Elitist is way to a specific term for the amount of times it gets thrown around by people. You can be arrogant, condescending, close minded, whiney, and pretentious all at the same time, and still not be elitist.

If you were to read the post again I think you would see the intent of this thread was to get people to talk and debate the state of AMVs, and maybe let the people who care know that they need to start bringing their A game. If this thread was elitist, it wouldn't exist. It would be a snide rant on my forums about what fucking sheep you all are for worshiping awful videos and all the forum goes could laugh at a distance at the folley of the org. I don't feel this way, and I don't think anyone else does. Calling people who are obviously more intensely interested in your hobby than you are "pretentious wankers" is lame and stupid.

Pushing boundaries and raising bars is fun. This isn't some existentialist high-art-bullshit concept. Breaking through to the next level of achievment is human nature. Why shouldn't people be concerned with making AMVs better than the previously are?

[Otohiko]

Kamoc... where are you

Truer words have not been spoken!

[jbone]

Innovation is possible but is usually recieved badly. People fear change. They accept evolution of ideas but not total paradigm shifts.

The reactions I get from my videos resemble those remarks.

Is there anyone else on this site still doing AMVs because...you know...they just like doing them...and, to that end, isn't terribly concerned with making the next big hit?
If people like it, OK, good for them...
If they don't...why should you care?

*raises hand*

[Castor Troy]

We haven't had a definitive video since PFS, and before that, Faces of Death. These are the kinds of things that can appeal to everyone by setting the bar higher and innovating new and creative ways of doing things most of us take for granted.

[Flint the Dwarf]

Kamoc... where are you

Truer words have not been spoken!

Seconded.

[Kalium]

To be serious for a moment, imitators are inevitable. It happens in every form. Someone does something new, and other people take it and use it themselves. Some of them will use it the exact same way. Some will use it in a slightly different manner. Still others will find a completely different use for it. A fourth group will combine it with something else for something really unusual. This is how the normal course of artistic evolution occurs: hundreds of people taking what they know how to do and doing something slightly different with it.

Once in a long while, something very different comes along. Not as often as many think, mind you. Most of the supposed breakthrough videos in this thread have artistic precursors if one can be bothered to look.

The course of artistic evolution, if traced on a graph, would be mostly a curve with a few jagged spots. Not a series of jumps and lines. Of course, if you only watch the videos that get a lot of attention, you might (falsely) get the latter impression, but that's viewer selection at work.

The videos that become popular aren't usually the ones that pioneer something new. They are the ones that pefect it, which is not the same at all. It is the rarest of rare videos that both does something completely new and does it perfectly at the same time.

[Pyle]

All I do is bitch every once in awhile and half of the .org agrees with me because I come on so strong.

You think we need a new leader so bad?

Step up and make one yourself.

[MCWagner]

So let's say 1997-2000 was the classic age, 2004 the modern and now we are in the postmodern age and the ghost of the avantgarde has died so we don't know what else to do to bring forth something new.

1997? 2000? Buh HAhA! Good one. I mean, if '97 is classic, than I'm one of the classic AMVers, and...

Oh wait, you're serious.

*sigh*