AWA is CON that you just can't miss!

[Kusoyaro]

I LIEK PIE :E

Only if it's pronounced "Pah."

[Wonka]

I LIEK PIE :E

Only if it's pronounced "Pah."

Ill take that as a no

[StudioKZ]

I admit she was way too drunk for her own good, but no one seemed to have a problem taking adnvantage of that. :\

You know, being one of the few people who was actually not-drunk-enough to forget the whole incident, I feel compelled to take issue with both what Emuko and Jbone and whomever else are saying about the girl dubbed (at the con by some other drunk guy) tittie-bitch. She was whoring herself out. Boyfriend's reigns or no, she was willingly partaking in everything, including the pictures, and even charging people for the privilage. That's not con-handling or pan-handling or whatever, that's whoring. It was also a conscious decision on her part. At one point later in the evening, she walked up uninvited and told a few of us to give her a dollar to kiss a girl we were talking to. Drunk or not, nobody pushed her into *that* one, so I seriously doubt she was pushed into the other situations she found herself in.

Although I *did* take pictures (I didn't pay, nor did I touch or grope or otherwise make physical contact, she was just being miss exhibitionist at the time and posing for me), and I do feel a tinge of regret for having done so (mostly because it's contributed to her not-so-flattering legend, and also note that you have not yet *seen* the pictures I took, Nate and I figured it'd be better for her if we just deleted them - Whether or not they got deleted, I don't know, it's Nate's Camera, his final decision), I did so with her express permission as a consenting adult.

[StudioKZ]

For the love of all things unbad, it's the twenty-first century. A girl has the right to show whatever she wants to whomever she wants.

Now, that's not to say that he shouldn't have tried to calm her down et cetera if she seemed uncharacteristically exhibitionist, but if she actually knew what she was doing he would've had no right to force her to stop.

If (s)he has no right to stop t-b, then (s)he has no right to bitch about the consequences of t-b's actions either, Jbone.

[jbone]

I feel compelled to take issue with both what Emuko and Jbone and whomever else are saying about the girl dubbed (at the con by some other drunk guy) tittie-bitch.

Um... what have I said about her, other than she had every right to do anything she wanted, and the only right anyone else had to stop her was to try to calm her down if she was acting uncharacteristically? ^^;

[jbone]

If (s)he has no right to stop t-b, then (s)he has no right to bitch about the consequences of t-b's actions either, Jbone.

Hey, you quoted the passage. Nowhere did I even imply anything about anyone having a right to complain.

Can people just stop kvetching about the matter? Seriously. Some moderator should just lock this thread already.

[StudioKZ]

First of all, I wasn't going at full force. That wasn't bitching, that was calm. See any exclamation points? No. Second, she's not my girlfriend. Third, you don't know my drinking ability that well (when you've grown up in a college town, you LEARN to drink at an early age, and yes I'm 21, too late to call the cops). Fourth, if you couldn't remember anything, why bother making shit up? And if you're gonna make up stuff for humorous purposes, the LEAST you could do is add a disclaimer saying "WARNING: None of this really happened, or maybe it did, I dunno, I was too friggin' plastered to remember". Honestly, I couldn't tell if you really meant it, but it wasn't that funny.

Let's not get into a pissing contest over who can hold more liquor, cause it'll turn into this:

"Personally, I'd side with dannywilson on this one, because we were both in the military and I *KNOW* if he likes drinking as much as he did at the con, that outside the con he drinks enough to put you to shame. (Hell, My tolerance is waning as I drink less and less and I still put most college kids to shame for sheer volume, try hitting 80 bars in one night, two drinks per bar and then walking three miles to get home, then waking up at 5 the next morning and going running, little man.)"

Secondly, let's not get into a pissing contest over who is angrier. I'm right pissed off right now, but you don't see me typing in all caps or using exclamation marks.

Thirdly, when posting obviously manipulated photos, it's not necesary to say 'This is what I imagined happened' or 'this never happened', because it's OBVIOUS.

If you couldn't tell that he was being humorous, then maybe you need to take a break from the internet and your heavy drinking and take a step back and look at reality. Somebody who passed out in an elevator and woke up with graffitti all over them, then had their picture taken isn't going to share that picture with you unless he's trying to make you laugh, that is to say *TRYING TO BE HUMOUROUS!!!*

I mean, I don't know if said girl in pic MINDS (I on the otherhand won't bitch of my image used). I'd imagine she'd be pissed with being refered to as "Tittybitch".

She may or may not mind, but she was being called it to her face at the con, and that was what everybody who saw her and/or was looking for her called her.

Even if she was drunk and told you "yeah, take pics", that doesn't mean "take pics, post 'em on public forums". Ethics, my friend, ethics.

No, not ETHICS, Compassion. Being a professional photographer, I've had several classes in ethics and Danny didn't violate ethics by snapping her photo and then posting it. The second she said yes, drunk or not, she gave her express verbal permission, thus giving Danny full ownership of the photograph/digital image he was about to take, and therefore that photo/image is his to do with as he pleases, to include publishing it. The fact that she was *POSING* for the pictures backs up the verbal agreement and therefore any claim she might have had that she didn't give her permission are forfeit.

Then again, this being a *PUBLIC* convention and trying as she was to make herself into a public figure, he didn't even need to ask her permission.
(For the record, those paparazzi who 'ran Princess Di into the wall trying to get her photograph' weren't being unethical, public figures haven't the same rights to privacy as the rest of us, they were just being uncompassionate and intrusive)
It'd be one thing if danny or myself had snuck up on her in the bushes and snapped photos of her making out with her boy/girlfriend, but he didn't(I would hope.)

[StudioKZ]

And Finally (In addendum to the PO'd post above) In the age of Digital Cameras, there is a 99% certainty that any photos taken of you at a public event such as a con are going to end up on the internet. Nobody is that naive, even when they are drunk.

[Red Wolf]

Mein Kopf! Seriously, this thread is starting to hurt.

[Nightowl]

As one of the few that began referring to the young woman as "titty-bitch," StudioKZ being the only other person on the forum to witness the reference itself, I feel obligated to say one thing.

Ichiban Crush - we talked very briefly. I was the guy in the bunny ears who said you are awesome (you are! that boa rocks!). Now, you said a bit back that she may not like being referred to as titty-bitch. I just want to say... I'm not sure how to come out and say it, but...

I got that from you... a large group of people can back that up... I'm not trying to get into the argument, I just wanted to point out that I found it very amusing that as you were walking by you simply bellowed "WHERE TITTY-BITCH AT?!" And when you walked back not thirty seconds later toward the elevator you said "DAMN!" I thought it was funny. I still do.

And no, I wouldn't post pictures of public nudity on a forum. I believe it is rude and, without express permission, CAN be illegal. If you want to talk about how it's not, fine.

I just though it was funny that Ichi... I have no idea what your real name is, I've been referring to you as either Boa guy or random AWA guy... came up with the term.

Now, that's all I have to say. I could've said all that in a paragraph, but I like to type, and I rarely say anything in the forum anyway. So there ya go!

-N