DDR Take 2: Mercy Killing

Kusoyaro · Post by **Kusoyaro** » Tue Oct 08, 2002 9:07 am

OmniStrata wrote:It's a good thing I got "stuck" at the 10second mark for my track... Then this post comes up...

Had I finished my track, I would have probably had to go out and proverbially shoot someone...

..Which is EXACTLY why I told Tommy this would be a bad idea. Not necessarily because it would "compete" with the original DDR project, because editors like you would be stranded.

Sorry, man...there's still a chance for you to get onboard DDR3 though, we're still working out track selection.

The Wired Knight · Post by **The Wired Knight** » Tue Oct 08, 2002 9:23 am

I think we have three projects now. With the status as follows...

DDR3 = Still in the works, from what I understand it won't be till late october or early till we see track selection up.

Anipaira = Basically almost go but still needs a few more creators.

NES = Got started real quick but still in the conceptual stages.

aluminumstudios · Post by **aluminumstudios** » Tue Oct 08, 2002 11:21 am

There's nothing wrong with other muti-editor projects popping up. But you gotta respect the ones that already exist and try to be a little original. Tommy, your approach to it wasy very abrasive and that's why it gained some negative reaction.

As far as "the ruling class," that sounds like a name someone decided call someone else, and not what any group thinks of themselves.

mckeed · Post by **mckeed** » Tue Oct 08, 2002 11:44 am

i agree....anyone who thinks there is a ruling class around here is mistaken. There are just dolts and non-dolts. It seems the makeup of this site is primarly dolts but there are the gems out there. Since the non-dolt people know what they are doing and generally a bit older and more mature, it may seem like a ruling class, but it really isn't. Don't get so bent out of shape over this. No one wanted you to fail.....I certainly didn't. It would have been cool to have another multi-editor project. Running a big project like that is hard...as the posts say, the first ddr project was a royal pain and was laced with tough stuff to deal with. DDR2 was much better because they learned from the first one. Just take this as a learnign experience and try again.

KoJiRoHx · Post by **KoJiRoHx** » Tue Oct 08, 2002 10:37 pm

..Which is EXACTLY why I told Tommy this would be a bad idea. Not necessarily because it would "compete" with the original DDR project, because editors like you would be stranded.

Editors like you? So your assuming your a better AMV artist than Tommy? HELLS NAA!!! I've seen your work and it doesn't compare to any of Tommy's work at all! I've heard about your rep and it's BS, the fact that you think you got the upper hand on Tommy is crap. Oh and his abandonment, that's just due to lazy ass people who don't wanna do jack! Seriously, I really don't know why you would include people who don't even have a computer in a project (as mentioned in the 1st ddr project). Another thing it's not that hard to make a AMV, so don't think your all special. However there is few people who will create something that is just outstanding and needs to be given recognition (once in a full moon). Not every AMV is a piece of art, regardless of who even created it.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Tue Oct 08, 2002 10:48 pm

I can say that I've never seen the original DDR project as a whole so I can't give a good opinion on it. This second project, I would've been interested in had it been more publicized. I didn't even know people were working on this project until it was already dead or dying. It could also just be that I'm not too focused yet into AMVs.

I'm not going to get into your positions on why you're working up so much heat over each other's vids since you will most likely dismiss me as another spammer. But I do want to see some formality and constructive crictism especially among people who seem to know so much about videos.

Org Profile · Post by **Vlad G Pohnert** » Tue Oct 08, 2002 11:05 pm

KoJiRoHx wrote: Editors like you? So your assuming your a better AMV artist than Tommy? HELLS NAA!!! I've seen your work and it doesn't compare to any of Tommy's work at all! I've heard about your rep and it's BS, the fact that you think you got the upper hand on Tommy is crap. Oh and his abandonment, that's just due to lazy ass people who don't wanna do jack! Seriously, I really don't know why you would include people who don't even have a computer in a project (as mentioned in the 1st ddr project). Another thing it's not that hard to make a AMV, so don't think your all special. However there is few people who will create something that is just outstanding and needs to be given recognition (once in a full moon). Not every AMV is a piece of art, regardless of who even created it.

I guess that a matter of opinion. I like videos by themselves, not just becasue a particular creator made it. I love and hate some of Kusoyaro's videos. This too applies to Tommy's. My only though about this whole thing is that I really don't have anything against Tommy's project, it his attitide that I disagree with and donit have any respect for, if he would be a bit more "diplomatic" and not so abrasive (as mentioned already) about things then maybe there would of been a lot more bigger interest rather than bitterness...

Vlad

Vlad

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Tue Oct 08, 2002 11:06 pm

KoJiRoHx, take your head our of your ass cause you completely misunderstood what Kusoyaro was saying. He wasn't even REFERRING to tommyrude when he said "editors like you". Try to understand what someone is even saying before you make such outlandish comments.

KoJiRoHx · Post by **KoJiRoHx** » Tue Oct 08, 2002 11:32 pm

I've had my discussion with you, which shows 2 possibilities to this.

paizuri · Post by **paizuri** » Wed Oct 09, 2002 12:15 am

KoJiRoHx wrote:
Kusoyaro wrote:..Which is EXACTLY why I told Tommy this would be a bad idea. Not necessarily because it would "compete" with the original DDR project, because editors like you would be stranded.
Editors like you? So your assuming your a better AMV artist than Tommy? HELLS NAA!!! I've seen your work and it doesn't compare to any of Tommy's work at all! I've heard about your rep and it's BS, the fact that you think you got the upper hand on Tommy is crap. Oh and his abandonment, that's just due to lazy ass people who don't wanna do jack! Seriously, I really don't know why you would include people who don't even have a computer in a project (as mentioned in the 1st ddr project). Another thing it's not that hard to make a AMV, so don't think your all special. However there is few people who will create something that is just outstanding and needs to be given recognition (once in a full moon). Not every AMV is a piece of art, regardless of who even created it.

Zarxrax wrote:He wasn't even REFERRING to tommyrude when he said "editors like you". Try to understand what someone is even saying before you make such outlandish comments.

There are far too many posts here nowadays of people spouting off when they base their entire outburst on a misunderstanding or else read in extra things which were never said. Are people not learning reading comprehension in schools these days or what?

So you've heard about his rep, have you? I have no idea what exactly his "rep" is, but let me tell you about the person. This may be a newsflash to everyone, but the person that is most mystified by his "rep" is Kusoyaro himself. He's not part of some weird AMV ruling class, he's not God's Gift to AMVs, he's just a guy, and that's how he thinks of himself. I've never heard him say that he's better than anyone, or bragged about how many awards he's won or how many videos he's done. He's made a lot of videos and many people like them. Maybe not all of them, and I don't know of any one video that is universally loved, but he's never complained about that. He just keeps on quietly making videos.

And people keep requesting them. You can request that he send you CD-Rs of his work (his website tells you how) and he usually gets 30-40 requests a week. Is he raking in the dough this way? No, he doesn't even break even, but he figures if you really don't want to try getting them online for free, here's another avenue. What else does this mean? Not only does he have to spend the time to burn 3 700-MB CD-Rs per request, he also has to go to the post office and mail them out every week, which he does about 2-3 times a week, forcing him to take a long lunch everytime he goes to the post office and making him work later on those days to make up the time. Have you ever heard a peep out of him about this?

So why is he so popular? Who knows? My guess is that because he tries to answer all of his e-mails, letters, and IMs and he has a pleasant disposition in person, so that if you ever do meet him, he's not some arrogant dick whose head is swollen to the size of a watermelon, but rather a normal down-to-earth guy that likes making music videos. I think because of his attitudes and personality that he has made a lot of friends among other AMV makers and so is well-known that way. And because he is well-known among this AMV circle, maybe people listen to him and put more stock into his words than he intends when he states this or that opinion. If this is the case, blame yourself for falling for the "hype". Notice that Kusoyaro never tries to force his ideas on anyone, he just states his opinion and leaves it at that. Everyone has opinions and not everyone agrees with them. One thing I can guarantee you'll never see is an egomaniacal Kusoyaro running around posting about how he's a better editor than everyone or how his videos are so good and so popular and better than other ones. And if you think that he has a huge ego or he's being irrational, maybe you should think twice about that and re-read a post to see if you understood it correctly. Hell, that's just a good idea anywhere.