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Post by Shazzy » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:13 pm

Don't edit in DiVX. If DV is too big of a file format, I would recommend buying a cheap external hard drive (you can get an 80GB one for about $50). You could also try Apple Intermediate Codec, which is slightly smaller in size.
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Post by kittehpawz » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:45 am

shazzy wrote:Don't edit in DiVX. If DV is too big of a file format, I would recommend buying a cheap external hard drive (you can get an 80GB one for about $50). You could also try Apple Intermediate Codec, which is slightly smaller in size.
well i tried Xvid too which rendered a lot faster but problem is... i dont exactly have the best codec for it x.x; for some reason i cant get the newest one becuase i dont have the newest OS for mac and my dad says it prob wont run on mine because its too slow Dx It work fine on my PC though. But on my Mac, in quicktime it lags and wont play right and in FPC it jsut like makes a lot of square blocks everywhere x.X hmm is there a way to enocde it with apple intermediate codec? I dunno much about Compressor... it doesnt like me xD; i jsut been using my encoder on my pc for em... hmm...

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Post by Minion » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:47 am

do not edit in divx OR xvid
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Post by Shazzy » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:31 pm

Okies, I'm going to walk you through this. Do me a huge favor though, and use capitalization and punctuation when you write. :)

1. Download MPEG Streamclip.
2. Open MPEG Streamclip once it's installed.
3. Drag your ORIGINAL anime source file (not your movie, not anything you've converted, the original anime movie/series you started with) into the main window. Here's an example:

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4. Go to File>Export to Quicktime

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5. Copy what I have in the window below. You want Apple Motion JPEG A as your compressor, at 50% quality, 640x480 as your frame size, 29.97 in the frame rate box, and everything else UNCHECKED.

This may not be perfect, but it will do for now. We can fix other problems later. IF YOU WANT FURTHER HELP FROM ME, EXPORT WITH THE EXACT SETTINGS IN THE PICTURE BELOW.

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Now hit the Make Movie button.

Open up your new file that MPEG Streamclip just converted. Let me know how it looks. If you can, take a screenshot (CMD+SHIFT+3) and post it.
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Post by Val3ntia » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:30 pm

shazzy - Does that walk-through apply only to Macs? I'm on Windows XP. Windows Media Player keeps telling me I need Xvid or DiVX, but everyone else says not to edit with that stuff. So I really don't know what to do - sorry for my total and (I'm sure) annoying ignorance. Dx
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Post by Scintilla » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:54 pm

Val3ntia wrote:shazzy - Does that walk-through apply only to Macs? I'm on Windows XP. Windows Media Player keeps telling me I need Xvid or DiVX, but everyone else says not to edit with that stuff. So I really don't know what to do - sorry for my total and (I'm sure) annoying ignorance. Dx
It's easier on Windows because people have already written <a href="/guides/avtech">guides</a> specifically tailored to Windows.

By all means get the codecs so you can play those files back, but don't edit with those files -- <a href="http://www.amvwiki.org/index.php/DivX_Editing">here's why you shouldn't and how you can get around it</a>.
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Post by Shazzy » Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:09 am

Yeah, read the Windows guides. You can have the Xvid/DivX codecs on your system; there's a big difference between playing DivX encoded movies and editing in DivX.
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Post by Dynamics » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:25 pm

shazzy wrote:I wrote a whole tutorial on the pre-editing conversion process for the Mac. You'll want to read all the pages in the Concept section. Yes, it will take some time, but making AMVs has a learning curve.
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shazzy wrote:Okies, I'm going to walk you through this. Do me a huge favor though, and use capitalization and punctuation when you write. :)

1. Download MPEG Streamclip.
2. Open MPEG Streamclip once it's installed.
3. Drag your ORIGINAL anime source file (not your movie, not anything you've converted, the original anime movie/series you started with) into the main window. Here's an example:

Image

4. Go to File>Export to Quicktime

Image

5. Copy what I have in the window below. You want Apple Motion JPEG A as your compressor, at 50% quality, 640x480 as your frame size, 29.97 in the frame rate box, and everything else UNCHECKED.

This may not be perfect, but it will do for now. We can fix other problems later. IF YOU WANT FURTHER HELP FROM ME, EXPORT WITH THE EXACT SETTINGS IN THE PICTURE BELOW.

Image

Now hit the Make Movie button.

Open up your new file that MPEG Streamclip just converted. Let me know how it looks. If you can, take a screenshot (CMD+SHIFT+3) and post it.
This has been a great help . . .finally i have editable video in my FCP. . . however what can i do about the interlacing? The video has horizontal line skips i guess would be the best way to describe it i'm guessing? or did i miss a step due to the missing pics?

What are the recommended codecs to have installed for mac? if you know where to find them that'd be helpful too. Thanks again for helpin the NooB'z.

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Post by dokool » Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:18 am

Dynamics wrote:This has been a great help . . .finally i have editable video in my FCP. . . however what can i do about the interlacing? The video has horizontal line skips i guess would be the best way to describe it i'm guessing? or did i miss a step due to the missing pics?

What are the recommended codecs to have installed for mac? if you know where to find them that'd be helpful too. Thanks again for helpin the NooB'z.
Pro tip: Pre-processing sucks hardcore on the Mac - I wrestled with Shazzy's guide for about a week before I gave up trying to deal with video that had field-switching after EVERY SCENE.

Here's my advice, if you have a Windows machine: IVTC/Deinterlace/Whatever your footage in Windows. Do your filtering there, make it all nice and pretty with AVISynth, make clips, have a ball. Then, make your clips Uncompressed AVI, copy them to your Mac, and either convert them to a lossless editable codec, or just leave'm as-is and edit. Quite frankly, nothing currently available on OSX even holds a candle to the AMVApp - MactheRipper won't let me rip individual chapters, CineTools is a pain in the ass, and don't get me started on MPEGStreamclip and the rest.

Of course, if you don't have a Wintel machine to use, then just read Shazzy's guide from start to finish, accept that you'll only completely deinterlace your video if the Gods smile upon you, and good luck.

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Post by Willen » Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:27 am

dokool wrote:
Dynamics wrote:This has been a great help . . .finally i have editable video in my FCP. . . however what can i do about the interlacing? The video has horizontal line skips i guess would be the best way to describe it i'm guessing? or did i miss a step due to the missing pics?

What are the recommended codecs to have installed for mac? if you know where to find them that'd be helpful too. Thanks again for helpin the NooB'z.
Pro tip: Pre-processing sucks hardcore on the Mac - I wrestled with Shazzy's guide for about a week before I gave up trying to deal with video that had field-switching after EVERY SCENE.

Here's my advice, if you have a Windows machine: IVTC/Deinterlace/Whatever your footage in Windows. Do your filtering there, make it all nice and pretty with AVISynth, make clips, have a ball. Then, make your clips Uncompressed AVI, copy them to your Mac, and either convert them to a lossless editable codec, or just leave'm as-is and edit. Quite frankly, nothing currently available on OSX even holds a candle to the AMVApp - MactheRipper won't let me rip individual chapters, CineTools is a pain in the ass, and don't get me started on MPEGStreamclip and the rest.

Of course, if you don't have a Wintel machine to use, then just read Shazzy's guide from start to finish, accept that you'll only completely deinterlace your video if the Gods smile upon you, and good luck.
Y'know what? Considering all the stuff you still cannot do (properly) on a Mac for video, I'm surprised at why many professionals still use it. :|
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