Elfen Lied

Trunks_Blade · Post by **Trunks_Blade** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:50 am

Hmmm..did Eflen Lied really affect you guys that much?

I guess it just wasnt my type of anime then.

I mean first off, gore, decapitaitons, and disembowelments dont really excite me. Its not that i cant stand it, its just because its there, it dosent make it good.Im thinking take away those aspects, and you have an average storyline, and average characters.

I admit, I like to eat something while im watching new anime. For those who havent seen it, I DONT recommend eating SPAGHETTI during the first few eps, especially the first.

Maybe that skewed my perception of the anime a little.

Or maybe its becuase i judge how much i enjoy an anime by how much times i see it. With Elfen Lied its anime i dont see myself watching over and over again. With anime ranked so high up on anime lists unfortunately I fail to see why its up there, unless if the level of gore, blood etc. is major determining factor. My opinion my change in the future, but at the moment thats just how i see it.

Purge · Post by **Purge** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:22 am

awe if you dont like gore you musn't like alot of things in the action genre , you can't just pretend to remove the gore/action and say its just a mediocre story. The action scenes are important to the story. If you watched terminator and didn't see the T100 actually kill anything how could you take the concept of a killer robot from the future seriously.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:53 pm

Gore doesn't matter in today's society except when used in conjunction with a well written script and portrayed realistically, i.e. actor-movies. The gore in EL is a tad overdone, but that's usually not the part that affects people's emotions, unless they're an anime newbie. Most of us have seen it done before.

Ivvan Cain · Post by **Ivvan Cain** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:40 pm

The gore was overdone at times, but it wasn't anything special to me...though I used it to freak out my roommates a few times. Also, eating is a bad idea while watching Elfen Lied...the episodes usually remind me of a butcher cutting ham.

I personally thought the story was very good and had some good characters. The military nut was probably the only character that I felt had no depth.

However, I suppose it is possible for the gore to cause people to be distracted from the storytelling.

Krisqo · Post by **Krisqo** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:14 am

Lyrs wrote:Gore doesn't matter in today's society except when used in conjunction with a well written script and portrayed realistically, i.e. actor-movies. The gore in EL is a tad overdone, but that's usually not the part that affects people's emotions, unless they're an anime newbie. Most of us have seen it done before.

Personally, I don't think it was overdone. Sure the first thing you see is a twitching arm lying in a pool of blood, but it is a story about death and grief and what better way to show it is with death an grief. Now if there was this crap in every episode like shown in the first, then yeah, it would. But I feel there is an even mix of drama and violence. But that is just my opinion. I really liked it and the story it told. Very heartwrenching in my eye, but I'm an emotional guy.

And I love eating a hearty hot roast beef sandwich while watching EL.

8bit_samurai · Post by **8bit_samurai** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:25 am

This is probably one of the few anime to stir up my emotions as much has it did. But it feels incomplete to me or something, probably due to the fact I was expecting (more) action/gore rather than emo/gore, if that makes sense.

Kevmaster · Post by **Kevmaster** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:14 am

!I HAVENT READ ALL THE POSTS HERE!

Okay, Elfen Lied is The Greatast Anime That has ever Existed! No other Anime is nearly as good as Elfen Lied

And you dont got an extra eye or something If you have kids with your Cousin! I know it's Incess in Many countries but it is allowed in some countries like Germany and Japan to have a relationship with your cousin it's allowed to Have kids with your cousin and it's allowed to marry your Cousin! There is no risc that you're kids will get some extra legs or something like that just because it's your Cousin.

And I think Lucy rules, she's hot and Simply Great

Kadaj · Post by **Kadaj** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:06 am

Kevmasterflashdeluxe wrote:it's allowed to Have kids with your cousin and it's allowed to marry your Cousin! There is no risc that you're kids will get some extra legs or something like that just because it's your Cousin.

....

no, but there is a serious risk of disease such as hemophilia in the children. There can also be a side effect known as inbreeding depression where notably harmfull recessive genes are allowed to surface due to the doubling up of allele types in the parents, which is of course rare in unrelated couples. This can lead to distinctly weakened muscular structure and in some cases premature death.

but yes, elfen lied is awesome.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:13 am

Of course, if you're going to use that argument, then you should also be against any other relationship which may produce an equivalent genetically undesirable off spring.

Else, you're just a hypocrite with one too many opinions.

However, should such a child exist, you can take a point from Elfen Lied about how Nature and nurture both contribute to a child's welfare. After all, are you prepared to kill your own child to please society's beliefs or for that fact, your own?

Kadaj · Post by **Kadaj** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:07 am

Lyrs wrote:Of course, if you're going to use that argument, then you should also be against any other relationship which may produce an equivalent genetically undesirable off spring.

dude, any relationship is capable of producing genetic conditions that deter from the 'normal', but inbreeding is just one of the most likely, and of course i'm going to use that argument, as that is a fair reason WHY inbreeding is generally considered inappropriate

. anyways, that's not a discussion for here.

I do agree that the situations portrayed in Elfen Lied with the option of killing a child to save society are very confronting and add depth and interest to the story. I think the yuka/kohta relationship was still rather weak in the anime, as apart from making a fragile love triangle with kohta, lucy and yuka, it did not serve a great deal of purpose. again it does make a nice moral issue about relationships which adds to the confronting nature of the series.