Pixelation Problem...

[CCChang]

this is called interlacing. im too tired to give a proper explanation or post a avi script, so just run a deinterlace filter in vdub

...huh?

Are you saying I should redo all my clips in VDub?!?!?!?

EVERY DAM ONE?!!?!?!?

If thats what you're saying, then I'll do that for the future, but not now...


Anyway, the bitrate did improve it quite a bit. The only thing stopping me now are three things:

1. Which Pixel Aspect should I use (as in Square Pixels (1.0), D1/DV NTSC (0.9), etc...)?

2. Everytime I attempt to export with XVid, this Xvid Status window comes up and crashed the whole program.

3. (If Problem 2 can't be solved (I would like to know if it is solved anyway)) When I export with DivX with a higher bitrate with multipass, it keeps on coming up with this serious error (it's being unhelpful by not saying what it is unfortunately...) and is forced to shut down the program, not exporting completely. What can I do to avoid this problem and finish the AMV exporting?


Also, when I'm creating another AMV, will I have to Deinterlace clips with VDub before I use the clips? Or can I just use it as it is? (Sorry if its probably a stupid question, but hey, I'm still clueless...)

And yeah, if anyone has a simular problem, go ahead and just use this thread if you want.

[Qyot27]

1. Which Pixel Aspect should I use (as in Square Pixels (1.0), D1/DV NTSC (0.9), etc...)?

Depends. What is the resolution of the footage you're editing with/exporting at? If it's 720x480, then use 0.9 (and then resize to 640x480 or other 4:3 ratio afterward*). If it's 640x480 or 848x480, use Square - if you want to resize it after that, just make sure to preserve the ratio (4:3 or 16:9, respectively).

*If it's anamorphic footage (comes from a DVD that says 'Enhanced for 16:9 televisions', or some such) then don't use a 4:3 ratio; use a 16:9 ratio.

2. Everytime I attempt to export with XVid, this Xvid Status window comes up and crashed the whole program.

Export XviD from Premiere? Don't. Use VirtualDubMod for that. And the status window can be disabled in XviD's configuration by going to Other Options... and unchecking 'Display encoding status'.

Also, when I'm creating another AMV, will I have to Deinterlace clips with VDub before I use the clips? Or can I just use it as it is? (Sorry if its probably a stupid question, but hey, I'm still clueless...)

The guides cover this, but generally yes (although not with VDub; this is where using AviSynth is highly recommended since it streamlines it for you and other image improvements can be done at the same time which can make everything easier to compress to XviD at the end). Stuff like deinterlacing or inverse telecine should be done prior to ever editing with the footage to simplify things. Premiere and most other editing systems worth their salt can edit Interlaced footage properly, but it's a generally agreed-upon pain-in-the-ass to do so - it's far easier to work with Progressive footage.

[CCChang]

1. Which Pixel Aspect should I use (as in Square Pixels (1.0), D1/DV NTSC (0.9), etc...)?

Depends. What is the resolution of the footage you're editing with/exporting at? If it's 720x480, then use 0.9 (and then resize to 640x480 or other 4:3 ratio afterward*). If it's 640x480 or 848x480, use Square - if you want to resize it after that, just make sure to preserve the ratio (4:3 or 16:9, respectively).

*If it's anamorphic footage (comes from a DVD that says 'Enhanced for 16:9 televisions', or some such) then don't use a 4:3 ratio; use a 16:9 ratio.

What if it's both? Like some scenes I'm using are both 640x480 and 720x480. What do I do then? Should I higher the bitrate? Or something like that?

2. Everytime I attempt to export with XVid, this Xvid Status window comes up and crashed the whole program.

Export XviD from Premiere? Don't. Use VirtualDubMod for that. And the status window can be disabled in XviD's configuration by going to Other Options... and unchecking 'Display encoding status'.

Could you explain this again? Like sure, I can disable it like you say, but do you mean use the VDub to resave the whole AMV? Or use it as a compressor on the exporting options of Premiere?

Also, when I'm creating another AMV, will I have to Deinterlace clips with VDub before I use the clips? Or can I just use it as it is? (Sorry if its probably a stupid question, but hey, I'm still clueless...)

The guides cover this, but generally yes (although not with VDub; this is where using AviSynth is highly recommended since it streamlines it for you and other image improvements can be done at the same time which can make everything easier to compress to XviD at the end). Stuff like deinterlacing or inverse telecine should be done prior to ever editing with the footage to simplify things. Premiere and most other editing systems worth their salt can edit Interlaced footage properly, but it's a generally agreed-upon pain-in-the-ass to do so - it's far easier to work with Progressive footage.

OK...

So just to check...

It's a YES, right?


And also, for my current problem (because it will take me a LONG time to VDub all my clips), how should I export it in it's current state?

And if this helps:

Frame Rate of Clips: 23
Resolution: some are 640x480, some are 720x480

None have been deinterlaced.

[BasharOfTheAges]

You need to deinterlace first. then if you're going to blend clips either do it in an artsy way or crop and resize so that everything is at the proper PAR and size. Then you edit.

Preprocessing is one of the most tedious steps of editing if everything isn't perfect to start with.

[CCChang]

I just want check first so that I don't get it wrong months later...

How do you deinterlace on VDub, and also, how do you like set the settings for the clip in VDub like make something that's 640x480 to 720x480, 24 frames to 30 frames, etc?

[CCChang]

I just want check first so that I don't get it wrong months later...

How do you deinterlace on VDub, and also, how do you like set the settings for the clip in VDub like make something that's 640x480 to 720x480, 24 frames to 30 frames, etc?

And also, do I have to always deinterlace? Or just for certain clips (like, for a certain anime, do I have to deinterlace it, and not have to deinterlace it for another)?

[Willen]

I just want check first so that I don't get it wrong months later...

How do you deinterlace on VDub, and also, how do you like set the settings for the clip in VDub like make something that's 640x480 to 720x480, 24 frames to 30 frames, etc?

And also, do I have to always deinterlace? Or just for certain clips (like, for a certain anime, do I have to deinterlace it, and not have to deinterlace it for another)?

I use AviSynth for manipulating footage instead of using VirtualDub's built-in functions. But here's a quick primer: load the video into VDub. Choose Video in the menu and select Full processing mode. Go back to Video and select Filters... (CTRL-F). Click on the Add... button and choose the filter you need from the list. Adjust the parameters as needed.

Using AviSynthis recommended since the number of available filters for it is much greater than the number of available VirualDub filters. Plus, AviSynth is infinitely more tweakable (and thusly, more powerful). I'm not sure if there is an available function for VirtualDub to change or adjust the framerate of a clip, and I'm pretty sure the deinterlace filter it has just deinterlaces and doesn't do inverse telecine (IVTC).

As for deinterlacing, you don't have to always do it, but it's highly recommended, especially if you are going to do clip speed changes in your editing. Generally, for DVD footage, you need to deinterlace since videos are stored on DVDs as interlaced, even if the the MPEG-2 encoding was done as progressive. If you aren't sure, go frame by frame through the footage in VDub and look for interlacing (see CrackTheSky's reply for the link to the examples).

If you are using non-DVD footage, you may or may not (usually not) need to deinterlace. Most of the non-DVD anime I've encountered have been deinterlaced (not always correctly, but deinterlaced nonetheless). Very rarely, you'll stumble across something that is interlaced, in which you have to treat it similar to interlaced DVD footage.

[Qyot27]

I'm not sure if there is an available function for VirtualDub to change or adjust the framerate of a clip, and I'm pretty sure the deinterlace filter it has just deinterlaces and doesn't do inverse telecine (IVTC).

Video->Frame Rate (and there is an inverse telecine function in here, at the bottom - I used it on a couple of videos; they didn't turn out too bad, but AviSynth can do it better, especially when using TFM).

[Willen]

I'm not sure if there is an available function for VirtualDub to change or adjust the framerate of a clip, and I'm pretty sure the deinterlace filter it has just deinterlaces and doesn't do inverse telecine (IVTC).

Video->Frame Rate (and there is an inverse telecine function in here, at the bottom - I used it on a couple of videos; they didn't turn out too bad, but AviSynth can do it better, especially when using TFM).

Aha! I only use File, Streams, and Tools (for the Script Editor). Everything else is done through AviSynth scripting.

Thanks for the heads up!

[CCChang]

Willen, I did what you said...but...

IT FLIPPING HUGE!

Like I just took about a 3 minute extract, and it was like 3 gig!

Am I doing something wrong? Or is there a way to shrink the size in VDub?