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Post by voldemort_is_my_bf » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:24 pm

Zarxrax wrote:I think we can all agree that Animaniacs was the epitome of American animation.

AMV Hell however, is for anime only, as can be clearly seen by expanding the title like so:

AMV Hell --> Anime Music Video Hell
As I and others have said, ATLA is debated as being an anime.

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Post by kikai_saigono » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:29 pm

voldemort_is_my_bf wrote: As I and others have said, ATLA is debated as being an anime.

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Org rules for what you may upload wrote:What you may upload: Japanese Animation. As in animation produced in Japan generally for a Japanese market. NOT western animation that looks-kinda-like-anime.
So it's not really being 'debated' as anime. If you use that for a segment or for a video, it will get rejected.
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Post by FlameRose » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:33 pm

A agree with Voldemort on this debate.

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Post by wurpess » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:43 pm

voldemort_is_my_bf wrote:Ya'll are animation racists, arent'cha?
(Er, most of ya'll.)

Just because the animation is modeled after anime, you can't cast it off as NOT being anime. It's not TECHNICAL anime, but it's a damn good attempt.
If you hate American animation so much, then why do you like anime? A lot of animes are based off of western culture.

(That would be like me hating American music just because I love Dir en Grey.)

((How very close minded...))

Either way, I'm making a small segment and submitting it regardless of what anyone says to me. (Except the Mods and the actual organizer of the project. =3)
ok, not in this, but have to step in. Many of us (like me) do NOT hate Western Animation. I love all kinds of cartoons. But the fact of the matter is, this is a site dedicated to Anime music videos. Anime being defined as animation from Japan. Not animation from wherever in the style of Japanese animation. So this isn't really about what people here like and don't like. It's about what the site has defined itself as and decided to allow. Which is why you'll see a bias towards actual anime from Japan here. Because that is what the site is centered around. That's not to say that the people here don't have other interests like in Western animation. That's just what they come here for. And you coming here to gripe about no anime style western animation on an AMV site dedicated to only Japanese animation is like walking into a butcher shop asking for Spam and complaining that they don't have it because its kinda like meat. There are other places for that, and the butcher might like it, that's just not what he has there.
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Post by voldemort_is_my_bf » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:50 pm

Rejected.

Anime is usually referred to as Asian animation. Korean anime and Chinese anime are getting up there, and not all of it is done by the Japanese.
My point is-
The difference is the country.
The quality is the same.
The art technique is the same.
They both model Asian culture.
But of of them is being unrightfully discriminated agiainst just because of where it's from. Watching anime in English is the same thing as an American anime. (Though I personally don't like to stomach English anime. D; )

EDIT: Anyways, most of the voice actors on ATLA are Chinjese, Japanese, and Korean, though that doesn't really matter much.
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Post by kikai_saigono » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:57 pm

Okay, srsly, you're not going to win this argument. Especially on this forum. You think you are, but you aren't. :neutral: You're new here, correct? Take time to read the rules before getting off on a subject that is a losing battle.
It's not anime, it never will be anime, and you're going to have to accept that. There is no 'debate' going on here, because there is nothing to debate about when the answer is sitting right in front of you. There is no such things as english anime. Rly. Read the rules that have been plastered in front of your face
I'm already bored with this topic. :?

wurpess wrote: And you coming here to gripe about no anime style western animation on an AMV site dedicated to only Japanese animation is like walking into a butcher shop asking for Spam and complaining that they don't have it because its kinda like meat. There are other places for that, and the butcher might like it, that's just not what he has there.
:up:
Finally and analogy I can relate too. :P lol
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Post by wurpess » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:57 pm

voldemort_is_my_bf wrote:Rejected.

Anime is usually referred to as Asian animation. Korean anime and Chinese anime are getting up there, and not all of it is done by the Japanese.
My point is-
The difference is the country.
The quality is the same.
The art technique is the same.
They both model Asian culture.
But of of them is being unrightfully discriminated agiainst just because of where it's from. Watching anime in English is the same thing as an American anime. (Though I personally don't like to stomach English anime. D; )

EDIT: Anyways, most of the voice actors on ATLA are Chinjese, Japanese, and Korean, though that doesn't really matter much.
I'm not saying what anime is defined everywhere else as. I'm saying what it's defined HERE as. Since that is what the arguement seems to be about. If you have a problem with that, I suggest arguing with admin or going somewhere else. And sometimes, where something is from defines what or who it is. You can't say something is authentic Italian leather if its not from Italy.
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Post by FlameRose » Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:01 pm

kikai_saigono wrote::neutral: You're new here, correct?
Actually she's been on here longer than you have.

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Post by kikai_saigono » Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:05 pm

FlameRose wrote: Actually she's been on here longer than you have.
And actually, I meant new to the forums. She has 7 posts. :neutral: If she had been here longer, she would have known all this already.
Youtuber wrote:What is an MEP exactly? I looked it up but I don't think it has anything to do with being a Member of the European Parliament.

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Post by starcat09 » Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:34 pm

It is possible to be a member for a long time and not be on the forums. (I really only started visiting myself in the last...six months? Probably less.)

I love the spam analogy. :) It's perfect.

So how about those AMV Hell 4 segments! I personally have been stuck on actual makingness since my first one. I've got the ideas/music, but not the video for them. This makes it a bit hard.
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