Best file format to use for amvs?

Wheee_It's_Me! · Post by **Wheee_It's_Me!** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:58 am

langrisser wrote:
Orwell wrote: Looks free to me....
to bad that's only a decoder

LOL, I didn't even notice it was just the decoder.

Wheee_It's_Me!: what media players support flv? and how much overhead does that add?

Well I use the K-lite codec pack which comes with teh modded Windows Media Player classic which plays...well pretty much everything actually. Once you have the K-lite codec pack installed though pretty much any video player on your system will be able to play FLV files (along with pretty much everything else). Really it's about the codecs more than it is the players.

...I'm not entirely certain about the legality of the K-lite codec pack though. It's easy enough to find through a Google search and no software companies seem very intent on trying to stop its distribution...*shrugs*...it btw does contain the On2 VP5/6/7 encoders as well the decoders.

XVID\DIVX is still the best overall choice for distro , h264 requires more cpu then a lot of people have and anything else is either to poor a compression or to obscure a codec

I disagree, I do a LOT of work as far as computer repair, software upgrades, etc and 10 out of 10 of all the computers I work on have NO video codecs on them outside of just what comes standard with Windows. This is why Xvid and Divx are such bad choices, because the VAST majority of people simply do not have the codecs, don't understand what codecs are, don't know where to get them, assume that it's the player that's the problem and lastly won't bother trying to find out just to play your video.

The entire point is distribution. Even if it's a format that's a little more bloaty like MPEG-1 it's STILL better than Xvid or Divx simply because more people will see it.

That's why On2 VP6 in a Flash file is so preferable, because anyone whose ever been to YouTube has the latest version of Flash installed (it installs automagically in seconds and requires no effort on the users part aside from clicking a button...once). That method also has the upside of being web friendly and playable directly in a web site.

Niotex · Post by **Niotex** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:01 pm

Kevmasterflashdeluxe wrote:h264/x264 (or however it is called) is the best Format I know for QUality..But there is a horrible Thing with it..its almost impossible to convert this files into to another format ( like an AAC mp4 to play it on my Ipod) :O Sometimes you have to find the most crazy ways to do it..some of them work in convertors like Total video convertor, some freeze your comp when you try to convert them..righ now I try to put them on DVD and I'm gonna rip them as VOB's when the dvd is finished to convert them to avi which I can convert to AAC-mp4 for my ipod then..@.q some of them got that main concept logo..sometimes I wish there would be only ONE format taht is perfect and can be used for everything..@.q

Thats just you sucking

ps - I'm sober again =|

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:07 pm

Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:
XVID\DIVX is still the best overall choice for distro , h264 requires more cpu then a lot of people have and anything else is either to poor a compression or to obscure a codec
I disagree, I do a LOT of work as far as computer repair, software upgrades, etc and 10 out of 10 of all the computers I work on have NO video codecs on them outside of just what comes standard with Windows. This is why Xvid and Divx are such bad choices, because the VAST majority of people simply do not have the codecs, don't understand what codecs are, don't know where to get them, assume that it's the player that's the problem and lastly won't bother trying to find out just to play your video.

You're forgetting that most of the people who download these AMVs are already animé fans and therefore are probably far more likely than the average computer user to have already downloaded XviD/DivX/something else compatible, in order to watch, say, digisubs.

Kevmaster · Post by **Kevmaster** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:10 pm

Niotex wrote:
Kevmasterflashdeluxe wrote:h264/x264 (or however it is called) is the best Format I know for QUality..But there is a horrible Thing with it..its almost impossible to convert this files into to another format ( like an AAC mp4 to play it on my Ipod) :O Sometimes you have to find the most crazy ways to do it..some of them work in convertors like Total video convertor, some freeze your comp when you try to convert them..righ now I try to put them on DVD and I'm gonna rip them as VOB's when the dvd is finished to convert them to avi which I can convert to AAC-mp4 for my ipod then..@.q some of them got that main concept logo..sometimes I wish there would be only ONE format taht is perfect and can be used for everything..@.q
Thats just you sucking

ps - I'm sober again =|

Give me a Guide how to convert MP4 to another format that works with really all h264/x264 mp4-vids, then I will completely stop bitching about mp4

Streicher · Post by **Streicher** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:18 pm

The target audience of AMVs will be very able to watch Xvid enoded files, as the fansubs are encoded like that for several years. The target audience of AMVs is also slowly but steadily switching to h264 encoded files, as the fansubs are slowly but steadily switching to h264.
The general mass computer user (MPEG1 lol) is irrelevant for this topic.

Also if somebody really wants to watch something, he will find out how.

Orwell · Post by **Orwell** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:46 pm

Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:
langrisser wrote:
Orwell wrote: Looks free to me....
to bad that's only a decoder
LOL, I didn't even notice it was just the decoder.

Try reading the whole page.

Features of VP6 6.4.2.0 :
- Supports Multi-pass encoding.

Wheee_It's_Me! · Post by **Wheee_It's_Me!** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:53 pm

Orwell wrote:
Try reading the whole page.
Features of VP6 6.4.2.0 :
- Supports Multi-pass encoding.

That's just telling you what the codec is capable of, that link you gave is just for the DECODER, not the encoder. You can get the encoder for it though in teh K-lite codec pack.

DJ_Izumi · Post by **DJ_Izumi** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:57 pm

MPEG-1

It's the only way to ensure no one says 'It doesn't work!'. ...Sadly. :/

Minion · Post by **Minion** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:58 pm

Kevmasterflashdeluxe wrote:
Niotex wrote:
Kevmasterflashdeluxe wrote:h264/x264 (or however it is called) is the best Format I know for QUality..But there is a horrible Thing with it..its almost impossible to convert this files into to another format ( like an AAC mp4 to play it on my Ipod) :O Sometimes you have to find the most crazy ways to do it..some of them work in convertors like Total video convertor, some freeze your comp when you try to convert them..righ now I try to put them on DVD and I'm gonna rip them as VOB's when the dvd is finished to convert them to avi which I can convert to AAC-mp4 for my ipod then..@.q some of them got that main concept logo..sometimes I wish there would be only ONE format taht is perfect and can be used for everything..@.q
Thats just you sucking

ps - I'm sober again =|
Give me a Guide how to convert MP4 to another format that works with really all h264/x264 mp4-vids, then I will completely stop bitching about mp4

theres a very simple way involving avisynth. i'm withholding it because of your ignorance though.

Minion · Post by **Minion** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:00 pm

i might as welll put in some usefull input; do NOT download the k-lite codec pack.
either hatter doesn't know what he's saying(likely), or he's trying to screw you.