Best file format to use for amvs?

[Wheee_It's_Me!]

To Whee_it's_meeee! that may be true, but keep in mind the org is a strictly a not for profit organization not some business trying to compete on a mountain.

Yeah but even Phade has to eat you know, so it can't be with the intent to make NO profit. If you're investing the majority of your life into something like this you need to have some means of supporting yourself. It would be more than foolish to not at least keep track of the hours you're clocking and to factor them at, at least minimum wage.

Basically until the world truly upgrades to HD-capable and so on the baseline is simply not gonna move ever so incrementally just to conform to you. It won't even move for X.264...

Sorry child, but the entire world already did upgrade:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_v ... r_amv.html

Sites like YouTube and Neopets pretty much forced everyone into it...not that it takes ANY effort to upgrade/install Flash, pretty much a single click is all it takes. It's fully cross operating system compatible and will work in ALL major browsers. At this point, it's a better distribution format than even MPEG-1.

Yes, this new trend

LOL, that's like trying to say that color TV is just a trend. Sorry, but Flash is very much here to stay and it is very much the future of web development. Before long nearly EVERYTHING will be built in Flash.

may 'out pace' a-m-v.org, but as a non-profit organization, I don't think we care. Use THEM by all means, but most likely, like most hype, they will soon crash like all the .com crap before them. Luckily a-m-v.org has avoided alot of the hype.

You're assuming that it would be done by some corporation. Let me give you a good example. You see this place:
http://charas-project.net/index.php

They used to control nearly the entire fan based RPG game making community...that was until the makers of RPG Maker (the primary program the community is based on) released a new version. The new version of the program, RPG Maker XP used new, larger sprites that were incompatible with older versions of the game. Now, the problem is, the folks over on Charas didn't bother to upgrade anything. Their sprite generator to this day (which has largely become a joke) still can only make character sprite sets for the OLD program and the ones it can make, well, they don't look very good. So then, along came lil 'ol me...and I took it, everything, their community is now directly under *MY* control. Why? Because I made this nifty lil thing:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/RMXP_CSG/

And then I went and aligned myself with rival forums to Charas further pushing them into the realm of obsolete. I even went so far as to start shit with their regs, which further alienated them in the community when they went against me. At this point, they're a mostly dead construct and I now have complete control over the entire community as they are wholly dependant upon me for what I create for them.

Now the thing of it is...I'm not that unique...there are a LOT of people who do things like me...and it's only going to take ONE of them to create an alternative .org site with advanced, cutting edge features that the .org doesn't have and isn't capable of producing and, well, that'll be it for this place.

Bottom line, MPEG is good enough o.0 (except in the case of MEPs... wich are the bane of our existence anyway...)

Keep thinking that, It'll make it that much funnier when someone comes along and takes over. ^_^

[Minion]

the banner got rejected, you guys


"he's not worth a banner"

[Kristyrat]

Now the thing of it is...I'm not that unique...there are a LOT of people who do things like me...and it's only going to take ONE of them to create an alternative .org site with advanced, cutting edge features that the .org doesn't have and isn't capable of producing and, well, that'll be it for this place.

Head for the hills!

[Szwagier]

You're assuming that it would be done by some corporation. Let me give you a good example. You see this place:
http://charas-project.net/index.php

They used to control nearly the entire fan based RPG game making community...that was until the makers of RPG Maker (the primary program the community is based on) released a new version. The new version of the program, RPG Maker XP used new, larger sprites that were incompatible with older versions of the game. Now, the problem is, the folks over on Charas didn't bother to upgrade anything. Their sprite generator to this day (which has largely become a joke) still can only make character sprite sets for the OLD program and the ones it can make, well, they don't look very good. So then, along came lil 'ol me...and I took it, everything, their community is now directly under *MY* control. Why? Because I made this nifty lil thing:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/RMXP_CSG/

And then I went and aligned myself with rival forums to Charas further pushing them into the realm of obsolete. I even went so far as to start shit with their regs, which further alienated them in the community when they went against me. At this point, they're a mostly dead construct and I now have complete control over the entire community as they are wholly dependant upon me for what I create for them.

Do you feel like their master now? Or more like god? Either way you need to visit psychologist instead of posting your visions about "Flash empire ruling the world" on this forum :[

[Gepetto]

Not to turn this into a discussion about Flash, but even if it is "the future of web development", the focus here is on video compression, and on that area Flash does poorly for many people. Why? For the same reason as RMVB does poorly (although Flash is very much above anything related to Real). There are people who will love being able to carry all episodes of Naruto on five floppy disks (yes they still exist) but there are also people who prefer quality. MPEG-4 codecs allow you to choose, within a fairly wide range, what ratio you want between quality and compression, and a high-compression h.264 is small. Flash, on the other hand, tilts too much to the compressibility side. Unless future installments make a big revolution on the compression options, it won't take over anytime soon.

[EvaFan]

You're assuming that it would be done by some corporation. Let me give you a good example. You see this place:
http://charas-project.net/index.php

They used to control nearly the entire fan based RPG game making community...that was until the makers of RPG Maker (the primary program the community is based on) released a new version. The new version of the program, RPG Maker XP used new, larger sprites that were incompatible with older versions of the game. Now, the problem is, the folks over on Charas didn't bother to upgrade anything. Their sprite generator to this day (which has largely become a joke) still can only make character sprite sets for the OLD program and the ones it can make, well, they don't look very good. So then, along came lil 'ol me...and I took it, everything, their community is now directly under *MY* control. Why? Because I made this nifty lil thing:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/RMXP_CSG/

And then I went and aligned myself with rival forums to Charas further pushing them into the realm of obsolete. I even went so far as to start shit with their regs, which further alienated them in the community when they went against me. At this point, they're a mostly dead construct and I now have complete control over the entire community as they are wholly dependant upon me for what I create for them.

Do you feel like their master now? Or more like god? Either way you need to visit psychologist instead of posting your visions about "Flash empire ruling the world" on this forum :[

That wouldn't work, the psychologist would resort to suicide cause no one appears to be getting a word in edgewise on this guy. He's hellbent on keeping his ego in check. Cause this is the internet where having an ego and being popular matters the most . I like my ego's with butter and syrup myself.

[Gepetto]

This is getting very off-topic. Let the guy defend his opinion. As long as the arguments make sense, I don't care why he wants Flash to be praised as the God of the New Order.

Then again, I'm a sucker for a good debate, so I'm completely partial on this matter. Do as you please.

[Wheee_It's_Me!]

Gotta love Minion, he's my newest little Hatter Addict. He doesn't perform as well as Porchy over on alt.2600 (who froths on command, night or day) but he does try. Minion is gonna need a Hatter Addict nyme though...hrmm...how about Shit Minion? Butt Minion maybe?

[Gepetto]

This is beyond off-topic. I've already posted a few times on this thread, but it's never too late to say "In before lock", so...

IN BEFORE LOCK!

[Wheee_It's_Me!]

Not to turn this into a discussion about Flash, but even if it is "the future of web development", the focus here is on video compression, and on that area Flash does poorly for many people. Why? For the same reason as RMVB does poorly (although Flash is very much above anything related to Real). There are people who will love being able to carry all episodes of Naruto on five floppy disks (yes they still exist) but there are also people who prefer quality. MPEG-4 codecs allow you to choose, within a fairly wide range, what ratio you want between quality and compression, and a high-compression h.264 is small. Flash, on the other hand, tilts too much to the compressibility side. Unless future installments make a big revolution on the compression options, it won't take over anytime soon.

WRONG!

Flash makes use of the On2 VP6 codec which is even superior to h.264 in compression capability (while still retaining the maximum level of acceptable quality). Further you certainly ARE NOT limited to low bit rate forms, you could even create high def Flash video if it really struck your fancy and in fact if the Chinese EVD format goes through that's EXACTLY what it WILL be used for.