Anyone Going to Megacon 2007?

Panky · Post by **Panky** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:59 pm

So, did someone see who won?

Unlimited Rice · Post by **Unlimited Rice** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:27 am

Minion wrote:
Gox777 wrote:They never really made a decisive judgment, so no one ever saw the $100.
alright, and now this shit sounds like metrocon.
whats up, sushi?

Never made a decisive judgement? wow... man... wow

Minion · Post by **Minion** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:45 pm

i wonder if the maker of that inuyasha video is like:
"best contest EVER \m/ (>_<) \m/ "

Gox777 · Post by **Gox777** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:18 pm

Minion wrote:i wonder if the maker of that inuyasha video is like:
"best contest EVER \m/ (>_<) \m/ "

It should've won best comedy.
Watching that many people leave as fast as they did was one of the funniest things I saw all day :p

superboi · Post by **superboi** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:54 pm

so uhm... IDK about u guys, but I feel like I got horribly robbed out of this contest. I had the "Touchtone Ninja" AMV which from what I witnessed had the best freakin crowd reaction out of the bunch, and slaughtered the crap out of that 3 min 30 sec long running joke of Lords of Acid's - "Show me your Pussy" to Azumanga Daioh, and their little girls petting each other's pussy cats.

I'll be damned if I ever do another AMV for MegaCon. That's their problem if they don't want to see good AMV's in their contest.

I'm gonna try to get my revenge at JaCon, but the only thing preventing me right now is the fact that they don't want AMV's that aired at another con even though only a handful of people saw it and still went crazy over it. I wanna get this thing to a real convention, so if u guys liked the Touch Tone Ninja AMV, and wanna see it again at JaCon, please help me out w/ this, cuz based on crowd reaction I was wearing my biggest "WTF" face ever.

PS - I promise to make the begenning more bareable, and ADD EVEN MORE to it to play around w/ the audience even more.

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AquaSky · Post by **AquaSky** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:00 am

Erm...let me put this in a polite way and all, but I really didn't enjoy that video (if it's the one I'm thinking about with the split-screen deal). It lacked a central concept and cohesion, as well as proper execution. It was basically a slew of images designed to elicit quick laughs from the audience, and it fell flat in several areas.

Granted, the Azumanga video wasn't one of the greatest comedies I've seen either, but given the limited number of comedy submissions I would have sided with the judges on that one. A video that outlasted its original joke but has solid editing throughout would qualify more than one that is basically the streaming equivalent of a thread in /b/. I don't mean to sound unkind, but for someone to say they were robbed is a hefty statement. While it's easy to get a rise out of a con crowd with a little fan-pandering, it takes considerably more to impress the judges (some of whom are also editors). That's just how the scene works; unless you're in an audience-vote situation, you'll be facing the scrutiny of a few people who are usually primarily concerned with editing quality and concept.

In short, just about all of us have felt that our video deserved to win at one time or another. But to openly criticize the contest for their decision shows poor sportsmanship. It's entirely up to you whether to accept constructive criticism, but the only way to really improve as an editor is to take feedback and use it to strengthen your future works.

superboi · Post by **superboi** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:06 am

I'm goin off of feedback from the crowd here. Not to mention the countless number of people who told me I got robbed. The amv was supposed to be nothing BUT pure madness. The only "theme" was that you were going to be looking EVERYWHERE. If it was something you didn't enjoy, then let me ask you this... What was your reaction while watching that AMV?

You know what I always thought constituted as best comedy?? The fact that people will laugh. Which one is funnier. If you wanna let them win "Best Comedy" because their editing is better, then there's an obvious problem. The concept was to see who could be the most "funny" (atleast from my understanding). Mine was funnier based on what I saw from the crowd. Hence I was robbed. Like I said it was "Best Comedy", not "Best Technical that could get a laugh".

I made my AMV with the crowd in mind, and nothing else. It worked out great, and they ate up everything. I don't know about you, but I always thought that we made AMV's for the audience... Not for technicalities.

AquaSky · Post by **AquaSky** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:32 pm

superboi wrote:I'm goin off of feedback from the crowd here. Not to mention the countless number of people who told me I got robbed. The amv was supposed to be nothing BUT pure madness. The only "theme" was that you were going to be looking EVERYWHERE. If it was something you didn't enjoy, then let me ask you this... What was your reaction while watching that AMV?

My honest reaction ? It was something along the lines of "This video is a basic exercise in lip-sync augmented by random images trying to elicit a laugh. There's not that strong of a connection with the audio, or much in the way of editing. This isn't what comedy is about." While I can appreciate randomness on 4chan, it's more out of place in video format, and can come across as grasping at straws.

You know what I always thought constituted as best comedy?? The fact that people will laugh. Which one is funnier. If you wanna let them win "Best Comedy" because their editing is better, then there's an obvious problem. The concept was to see who could be the most "funny" (atleast from my understanding). Mine was funnier based on what I saw from the crowd. Hence I was robbed. Like I said it was "Best Comedy", not "Best Technical that could get a laugh".

While humor matters, the contest is also to judge the merit of the video as a whole. Something that is put together in a hasty manner comes across as having less effort than a noticeably well-edited video. In truth, it's not very hard to get a laugh out of a con audience (heck, just look at some of the awful cosplay skits that still manage to get laughter). If you've ever been in the room when an FF7 video comes on, and you've had to witness the deafening fangirl squeal, you know how easily someone can provoke a reaction. That being said, it's important to judge quality in addition to audience reaction.

I made my AMV with the crowd in mind, and nothing else. It worked out great, and they ate up everything. I don't know about you, but I always thought that we made AMV's for the audience... Not for technicalities.

Most editors will tell you that they edit primarily for their own enjoyment, actually, and that it's a bonus if others happen to feel the same way about their work. That aside, I doubt there are many who would say that they don't strive for a favorable reaction. So, if that's what you were really after, and you're satisfied with it, why would it matter who actually got the award ? Bragging rights ? If what you've said is true, than you've gotten what you were aiming for, so shouldn't that be enough to be satisfied when all's said and done ? Just my thoughts on the matter, for that they're worth.

Saiyaman886 · Post by **Saiyaman886** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:20 pm

IcyCloud wrote:Most editors will tell you that they edit primarily for their own enjoyment, actually, and that it's a bonus if others happen to feel the same way about their work. That aside, I doubt there are many who would say that they don't strive for a favorable reaction. So, if that's what you were really after, and you're satisfied with it, why would it matter who actually got the award ? Bragging rights ? If what you've said is true, than you've gotten what you were aiming for, so shouldn't that be enough to be satisfied when all's said and done ? Just my thoughts on the matter, for that they're worth.

QFT

Just like with any of these contests, like costume/cosplay, don't do it for the award, do it for fun. I've been completely happy with my AMV's even being shown at some contests, and when the crowd actually does go wild, that's better than any plaque or award has to show for it.

superboi · Post by **superboi** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:50 pm

that's not my beef at all. I really didn't care about the horrible contest at MegaCon until recently. Because I decided to enter what I thought was going to be a REAL amv contest, but wound up being nothing more than a bad joke with way too many techincal difficulties, I won't be able to enter it at JaCon.

JaCon doesn't want anything that was in any previous AMV contests. I figured I can get my recognition for it there, but if that's not the case then I'm gonna rant about how MegaCon's AMV contest sucked and how I got robbed out of my award.

What I feel I'm being robbed of most of all though is a good crowd. There were only about 40 people left in that room by the time my AMV even went up. That's nothing compared to what JaCon's gonna be like. If my AMV can envoke a reaction as good as that out of a mere 40 people, then you can bet your ass I wanna see what's gonna happen when there's more than 200 people watching this thing.

I'm sorry if you didn't like it, but from the crowd response I received, this makes you the black sheep of the bunch. Its true that this started off as a Lip syncing exercise, as well as a split screen experiment, and your absolutely right about how all it takes to make people laugh are random references to what people find funny and entertaining. But you have to know your audience, which we make up, and we are nothing more than dorks laughing at every corny joke we hear, and going crazy over references made in places that just don't seem to go with the original content. But if thats what we as a culture find funny, then that's what it should take to make a "Best Comedy".

Now it obviously wasn't good enough for you, but please tell me. Let me know of some "constructive" criticism. What can I do to make it "better"? Because as simple as you say it was, it did a phenomenal job. So I'm sorry if I played on what people find funny in order to try to win "Best Comedy". Maybe next time I'll try to win it by boring them to death. That's what seems to work anyway.

EDIT -

In truth, it's not very hard to get a laugh out of a con audience (heck, just look at some of the awful cosplay skits that still manage to get laughter). If you've ever been in the room when an FF7 video comes on, and you've had to witness the deafening fangirl squeal, you know how easily someone can provoke a reaction.

now if thats true, how come the person that won best comedy had such a hard time actually getting a good laugh from the crowd?