ShatteredFlame wrote:vivaldiscool wrote:Because of DBZ.
No, seriously, now everybody thinks anime's all about absurd hairdos, bulging muscles, and guys beating the crap out of each other for vaugley defined reasons. People also dislike the fanboys (otaku), When they call it a cartoon, they're usually like "dude, why is your like revolving around this, it just a cartoon."
I'm just curious to know, what would you introduce people to anime with? People complain about action anime's like Naruto, Bleach, & DBZ ruining it for new comers but if you think about it, they stand on the same level of interest as any any anime for a newcomer. There's comedy anime like Haruhi, School Rumble, and Azumanga Daioh that people would just see as childish as most American cartoons nowadays. Then there's all the nudity/ oversized fake ass tits and features that would also turn people off from anime, due to the fact that a girl can't look that good in real life making it way too over the top. Then there's mindfuck anime like Lain & Evangelion that probably unless their a sci-fi fanatic will put people to sleep. Then there's slice of life anime which I doubt any sane person would be interested in at first, "A Dramatic Cartoon?", no offense but just saying that makes me laugh. It's not about which anime is considered great opposed too anime that is considered horrid, at first glance you'll probably know weather you'll like it or not. For a newcomer something like Haruhi is just as unattractive and childish as DBZ!
And BTW doesn't anime mean "japanese animation" and cartoon mean "american animation" What makes them so different? They're both forms of animations/art, in one way or another, and are just getting produced by a different country. I honestly fail to see why people saying "dude, why is your like revolving around this, it just a cartoon." offends people when they HAVE gotten their point across. They're basically telling you that Your obsessing over some form of animation and need to obviously go outside and live a little
About 80% percent of your argument I either directly brought up in the post you quoted, or I thought should be self explanatory, but w\e.
I'm just curious to know, what would you introduce people to anime with? People complain about action anime's like Naruto, Bleach, & DBZ ruining it for new comers ect ect...
You're right, those are show that would fit neatly into their anime sterotype, but you can't lable everything as either kiddy or "mindfuck" like that.
Infact, as I already pointed out, I would use something serious and intelligent like gits or last exile, or something with a darker "adult" nature like death note or wolfs rain. Case in point, My brother has a friend at collage who disliked anime very much (though he's not seen any) and in fact, tv and movies in general. He and his family are extreme right wing conservatives,don't even have a tv in their home, and rarely go to the movies. (not saying anything against conservatives, these guys just really live it to the core) He's a brillient philosophy\writing double major that can beat the teachers at their own mind games. Kinda sounds like a lost cause for anime, right? Wrong, we finally got him to watch kinos journey. Pure phillophsy, not a "mindfuck." and he loved it. There was another art major who has detested anime for a long time because he didn't like the art, and didn't think there could be any story, but death note and miyazaki changed all that, and he's now founder of the local death note fan club.
And yes, some people don't even know there's different genra of anime, so they just assume everything is plot absent and stupid. So they don't know what they like right off the bat.
Was that long winded anough for you?
And sadly, all my friends close by are narutards, a step in the right direction I guess.
And BTW doesn't anime mean "japanese animation" and cartoon mean "american animation" What makes them so different? They're both forms of animations/art, in one way or another, and are just getting produced by a different country
I don't really see what brought this on, but the difference is, aside from the art and animation styles, that "anime" is much more varied. As I said, anime is very diverse and much more expanded than western cartoons. In the west, there's basicly three genras, kiddy (i.e.loony toons, and nowaday "educational" stuff like dora the explorer) Super hero (basicly shonen, teen titans, ben 10, ect.) And adult comedy (Family guy, harvey birdman, ect..) And then there's the great disney movies, but they've been doing CGI for the past ten years, so ~meh~
The point I'm making, is that you're trying to compare hot pockets to pizza. I'm not saying the hot pocket tastes bad at all, but the pizza is just more developed, and can accommodate many more spices and toppings.
@SuKuani: you should show them FMA or last exile or something like that which doesn't have any fanservice.
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