American POW vids

MistyCaldwell · Post by **MistyCaldwell** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:42 pm

I am not saying it's right

I am saying that many rules are being ignored, not just the POW guidelines. Defying them constitutes war crime trials for anyone that is left. But obviously these rules are not on the minds of all of those involved. I don't know how the Iraqi POW are going to be treated other than what we have seen. Hopefully, with regards to diplomacy. My entire point was it's useless to cry out about how unfair it is they aren't following the 'rules' of war. Did anyone really expect that anyway?

It's a bad situation becoming worse. If for nothing else than the lives of the people who are captured and tortured, I still oppose the war but there is nothing I (or anyone else) who feels this way can do except wait and hope for a quick end. I don't see how this type of invasion with Saddam still in 'power' of Iraq is going to do any good. I would have liked to see him weakened a lot more before this happened.

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:49 pm

MistyCaldwell wrote:I am not saying it's right I am saying that many rules are being ignored, not just the POW guidelines. Defying them constitutes war crime trials for anyone that is left. But obviously these rules are not on the minds of all of those involved. I don't know how the Iraqi POW are going to be treated other than what we have seen.

I would imagine quite well. Remember all those afgahnistan "terrorists" the US captured and took to camp X-Ray? They do not fall under the protection of the Geneva Convention and yet the US has provided them with Health Care, a place to live (albeit prison), and they have all gained weight since being detained (10 lbs. seems to be the average.)

If that is how the US treats people who could, under international law (Geneva Convention), could be shot on sight, we are probably treating Iraqi POW's (who are protected by the Geneva Convention) quite well.

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 11:25 pm

Well, killing Americans POWs is probably not the best way to pacify our forces over there. If anything, it'll just make our troops far more reckless with their rifles.

And violating the Geneva convention in that manner doesn't help their cause any.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 11:29 pm

actually it'll piss the troops off and they'll probably retaliate in a more subtle fashon of their own.

Dannywilson · Post by **Dannywilson** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 6:02 am

Giton wrote:Hey, congrats! You're the first pro war guy who can explain this point of view. Although I think 1 Million rebels is exaggerated (I heared of 10000-20000) it's still a crime that shouldn't have been commited.

10000-20000 were killied in single uprisings after we left them high and dry. No, the big killings were in the 80's when Saddam was doing ethnic cleansing.

Simpi · Post by **Simpi** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 8:33 am

I'll just have to rain on this parade too....

I'm laughing to Donald Rumsfeld how he suddenly 're-discovered' Geneva Convention when he said he was angry that Iraq showed images of POWs on tv. He was correct, believe it or not.

Well, CNN (among others) showed long colums of iraqi prisoners being lead away, lying at sand and being strip searched. I believe this could be classified 'humiliating' also. POW is a bargaining tool, propaganda weapon and morale booster all rolled into one and images of enemy prisoners keep homefront happy.

Some said that american POWs did not deserve their fate. Seriously people, if you would see a soldier of an invading army, would you not shoot on sight?

Dannywilson · Post by **Dannywilson** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:20 am

Yes. I would shoot on sight. I would not, however, return them to my base, shoot some of them in the head, gut some, and slash the other's throats, while videotaping the whole process, and air it on national TV.

Dark Dragon · Post by **Dark Dragon** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:26 am

Yes I would shoot them on sight, but not do what the Iraqi's are doing, that is just sick.

Simpi, there is a big differince between humiliating someone and killing someone you've taken prisoner, but let me tell you this, when the Army or Marines find the mother@@@@ who did that to the soldiers, I hope they show no mercy to those dirty little pieces of filth.

blackout_sehs · Post by **blackout_sehs** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 3:18 pm

Just a little catch up info. The latest in Iraq is that Husen's republican guard is dressing as American troops and attacking their own troops and when the Iraqi troops give up the Republican guard is shooting them and blaming it on the US. Sadam is going to get it i feel for this one. He has dropped to an ultimate low and when he falls i am not going to feel any amount of pain for him. I hope Bush pushes even harder now and i feel for the Iraqi civilians because i have a feeling it is going to get hot over there now.

blackout_sehs · Post by **blackout_sehs** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 3:24 pm

Sorry for a double post but new info. Americans found a hospital and approached it and Iraqi solderis dressed in civilian clothes started firing. They captured 120 soldiers in civilian clothes, 100 chemical suits, alot of ammo, and a tank. All this at a hospital.. I cant believe these guys using a hospital as a human sheild.