Evangelon Live-Action Primary Sketches

[the Black Monarch]

If I may speak on the subject, does it really matter that ADV is making a live-action Eva? For all those Eva fanboys out there, who are spazzing out about this, why does it matter so? I mean its just a movie. And if it flops, or sucks, then it flops or sucks. Its not like ADV is breaking your arm to watch it.

Some people don't want sucky movies to be made. Others want to be sure that projects with a lot of potential and expectations, like this one, are done right. I would sacrifice the lives of myself and my immediate family to make a live-action Eva TV series that is as good as it can be.

But still I find it funny all these Eva buffs are cryin' and whinin' like 3 year olds saying "NO!!! Don't do this to Eva!!! Eva is the 'greatest anime' of all time!" Which is another matter that I would like to argu. Evangelion is, in my opinion not God's gift to the anime world. I cannot see why everyone loves the show so much. In essence its just another giant mech/monster of the day show. Not saying that that is a bad thing, but it is nothing new to the anime world. Now I know that everything I've said will probly have me get flamed out the ass, but this is just how I feel about Eva and the whole movie thing. I'm not forcing my beliefs on anyone, I'm just stating my opinions. In fact, I'm not saying that Eva sucks, I like Eva, I even own it. But I don't think that it is the greatest of all time. No anime yet has had me say that. But thats just me, like I said before... Anywho, flame me if you wish...

You don't seem to understand what Eva is truly about. It's not about the robots, it's about the characters.

[dwchang]

But still I find it funny all these Eva buffs are cryin' and whinin' like 3 year olds saying "NO!!! Don't do this to Eva!!! Eva is the 'greatest anime' of all time!" Which is another matter that I would like to argu. Evangelion is, in my opinion not God's gift to the anime world. I cannot see why everyone loves the show so much. In essence its just another giant mech/monster of the day show. Not saying that that is a bad thing, but it is nothing new to the anime world. Now I know that everything I've said will probly have me get flamed out the ass, but this is just how I feel about Eva and the whole movie thing. I'm not forcing my beliefs on anyone, I'm just stating my opinions. In fact, I'm not saying that Eva sucks, I like Eva, I even own it. But I don't think that it is the greatest of all time. No anime yet has had me say that. But thats just me, like I said before... Anywho, flame me if you wish...

You don't seem to understand what Eva is truly about. It's not about the robots, it's about the characters.

I wholeheartedly agree with the Monarch on this one. You seem to have missed quite a bit if you think Evangelion is just another mecha show. The reason it was so successful and called "God's gift to anime" is because of all the deeper and character driven undertones (not really under near the end is it?). On the facade it was a mecha show, but it was fundamanentally about the characters (whicih are really just our own emotions/personalities). The mecha part is just a vehicle to tell a story about the characters and their journeys to find self-worth.

[B3]

*sigh* To verify something, I do know that the show was mainly about the characters... what anime isn't? In my opinion the show is just kinda Gundam rehashed that reflects on the characters more (oh I'm so gonna get flammed for this ) Besides that, all Eva did was toss in a few biblical references and prophicies for good measure and depth. Now like I've said before, I DO NOT HATE EVA! I just think that it isn't the greatest anime of all time. And what makes me hate it sometimes though is how all these Eva fanboys litterally shove it in my face sayin' how great it is... just like Final Fantasy 7... but thats for another topic... And again, I'm not forcing this opinion of mine on anyone. If you wanna think that Eva is God mannifested in DVD form, go ahead... I on the other hand will continue the search for the true greatest anime of all time, with the other otakus on these forums... *sigh* I think I've just established myself as the man to flame now on these forums....

[SQ]

I'd like to jump back up to what they may do to the christian-hashing in the live-action movie. (I am pretty sure I mentioned it in this topic before..)

I did some fairly shallow(shallow being the key word) research, and noticed that Angel Cop, when it was dubbed, took out every single thing against jews.
So now I'm fairly positive they, when the live-action movie arrives, will either take out all the references entirely, or somehow make them pro-christian.

And if this isn't the right topic, I'm sorry in advance. It's really early...

[pyro_256]

I'd like to jump back up to what they may do to the christian-hashing in the live-action movie. (I am pretty sure I mentioned it in this topic before..)

I did some fairly shallow(shallow being the key word) research, and noticed that Angel Cop, when it was dubbed, took out every single thing against jews.
So now I'm fairly positive they, when the live-action movie arrives, will either take out all the references entirely, or somehow make them pro-christian.

And if this isn't the right topic, I'm sorry in advance. It's really early...

i think most christians don't give a damn about heir religion. i'm supposed to be catholic, so's my sister. she wants to be publically excommunicated. just about every christian i know doesn't take religion seriously. so movies can do well with anti-christian material in it

[shadow-the-hedgehog]

Firstly Eva has more religous conotations. There are plenty of religous refs in it...eg: the Magi and the Sephiroth. The seven circles icon.

Two, they CAN'T have a whole new story line/characters and still be called eva. Mebbe if they sort of follow what happened over here instead with the destruction of unit 4 mebbe. IT CAN'T HAPPEN after 3rd impact .

Thirdly, if they change cities. I don't care it works either way.

Fourth: I think that askua looks a bit odd. Thats just me.

Also I wonder how old the Children are gonna be... o_0

[shadow-the-hedgehog]

I'd like to jump back up to what they may do to the christian-hashing in the live-action movie. (I am pretty sure I mentioned it in this topic before..)

I did some fairly shallow(shallow being the key word) research, and noticed that Angel Cop, when it was dubbed, took out every single thing against jews.
So now I'm fairly positive they, when the live-action movie arrives, will either take out all the references entirely, or somehow make them pro-christian.

And if this isn't the right topic, I'm sorry in advance. It's really early...

i think most christians don't give a damn about heir religion. i'm supposed to be catholic, so's my sister. she wants to be publically excommunicated. just about every christian i know doesn't take religion seriously. so movies can do well with anti-christian material in it

Wrong. Some will bitch. There ARE christians who take their religion VERY seriously. I am not one of those people. Also remember that Eva is not really main stream so not many christian groups know that eva has it. Also Evangelion is not "anti-christian" it borrows Christian Iconography and termonology for it. The only thing that is remotely "anti-christian" is the fact that they are battling angels.

[Otohiko]

I'd like to jump back up to what they may do to the christian-hashing in the live-action movie. (I am pretty sure I mentioned it in this topic before..)

I did some fairly shallow(shallow being the key word) research, and noticed that Angel Cop, when it was dubbed, took out every single thing against jews.
So now I'm fairly positive they, when the live-action movie arrives, will either take out all the references entirely, or somehow make them pro-christian.

And if this isn't the right topic, I'm sorry in advance. It's really early...

i think most christians don't give a damn about heir religion. i'm supposed to be catholic, so's my sister. she wants to be publically excommunicated. just about every christian i know doesn't take religion seriously. so movies can do well with anti-christian material in it

Wrong. Some will bitch. There ARE christians who take their religion VERY seriously. I am not one of those people. Also remember that Eva is not really main stream so not many christian groups know that eva has it. Also Evangelion is not "anti-christian" it borrows Christian Iconography and termonology for it. The only thing that is remotely "anti-christian" is the fact that they are battling angels.

Yes, this is true. Among mainstream youth, religion is not very popular or influential. But if you go to the guys with the power, especially in America - religion tends to play a huge role.

I suppose that's all the more evident if you're from South Texas like Shadow here - in many areas of the southern states, religion is very important and quite aggressive at times. These fundamentalist church guys are very critical of even what's considered 'normal' in American movies. If something out of Japan comes out as a widespread film release, and has anything remotely close to being religiously questionable, these people will be screaming mad.

So there's an obstacle to the movie's accuracy for you right there.

[kthulhu]

I don't think that the religious stuff in Eva is significant or reflects the religious views of Hideaki Anno. Christianity is "exotic", in a sense, over in Japan, and many of the concepts in it make for good writing.

As for Christianity in the movies here in the US, the bitchy Christians (who seem to get the most press) will raise shitfits over what they view as blasphemy in the mainstream. If Evangelion has a high enough age rating, this shouldn't be a problem. If the film is overly controversial, though, it may awaken latent religious tendencies against it, if enough negative press pops up.

[shadow-the-hedgehog]

I agree with kthulhu there. The christian concepts in Eva are merely a means for an end. They use christan images to add to the concept. I still don't think that Eva is mainstream enough to have "righteous christian groups" knocking down production or anything. Since it is based on a series for a very small demographic. The demographic that this applies to already knows about the reliogous aspects.

You also have to realize that some christian groups hated Harry Potter b/c of its blantant use of Witchcraft. Thats pure bullshit.