Tasteful FX in AMVs

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Post by badmartialarts » Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:39 pm

Streicher wrote:Something that bothers me myself, is seeing otherwise good amvs that become totally cheesy because the editor thought "OMG there's a piano in the song. I TOTALLY HAVE TO MAKE PIANO KEYS!!!111"
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Post by SSJVegita0609 » Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:56 pm

I don't blame Euphoria, I blame AE.

Koop made Euphoria with a program slightly less capable than premiere, doing most of the masking effects by hand in MS paint. He put a shitload of effort into everything.

AE allows creators to do similar things, but majorly dumbs down the process. Many sub-par AE videos attempt to achieve effects along the lines of Euphoria's, but half ass them using every shortcut the program offers. As such, you run into a lot of shitty clones. If AE hadn't become popularized immediately after Euphoria's release (which was merely coincidental), then you wouldn't have nearly as many bad effects videos because doing the types of effects Koop pulled off would still be hard as hell and require an actual brain in your skull. If someone's attempting to produce a Euphoria clone for the sake of popularity, then chances are they aren't willing to put 1/3 of the effort koop did into their peice.
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Post by Beowulf » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:16 pm

It kind of hurts me to say this, but I think you guys are giving people way to much credit.

It wasn't Koop's fault, nor was it AE's fault. Behind all those shitty videos are people who made them, who LIKE them, and who think they are AWESOME. AE doesn't create terrible effect clones. People with god awful fucking taste do.

You can't learn taste. If you genuinly think that those awful tacky effects look great, then thats it. You like it.

Thats why we have bad videos.

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Post by Pwolf » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:30 pm

Beowulf wrote:It kind of hurts me to say this, but I think you guys are giving people way to much credit.

It wasn't Koop's fault, nor was it AE's fault. Behind all those shitty videos are people who made them, who LIKE them, and who think they are AWESOME. AE doesn't create terrible effect clones. People with god awful fucking taste do.

You can't learn taste. If you genuinly think that those awful tacky effects look great, then thats it. You like it.

Thats why we have bad videos.
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Post by Kitsuner » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:58 pm

#AMV wrote:<inthesto> How do you get worse at making AMVs?
<metro> you start using AE
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Post by Metro » Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:31 pm

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BEWARE THE EFFECTS MENACE

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Post by Otohiko » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:39 pm

Metro wrote:Image

BEWARE THE EFFECTS MENACE
СЛУЖУ СССР!!!

In fairness, I don't think there's such a generalizable category as tasteful effects. Barn doors can be tasteful. Piano keys can be tasteful. It's the context of their use, not the effects themselves.
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Post by NMEisMIA » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:48 pm

Barn doors are never tasteful. They were originally created as an affront to good taste and they remain that to this very day.
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Post by Otohiko » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:20 am

Tastelessness can be tasteful.

It's like those people who like eating rotten cheese and frogs, eh. :roll:
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Post by SSJVegita0609 » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:47 am

Otohiko wrote:It's like those people who like eating rotten cheese and frogs, eh. :roll:
Yeah... But those people are freaks... :P

I hereby challange someone to use the starwipe tastefully.


...Actually no, I dread to know what kind of videos would come out of such a challange.
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