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Re: How to select clips?

Post by seasons » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:00 am

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seasons wrote:I'm just running through episodes one by one and making subclips out of anything that looks usable. This is a horribly inefficient and time-consuming method but when I have (what I think is) a good but uselessly incomplete draft of the video in my head, this is the only method I've used to help bring it into clearer focus prior to editing.

I rarely take advantage of the extra sequence feature in Premiere, I might try LittleAtari's method just to see what happens.
uh. why not just use the entire episode
Because I like to categorize my clips into different bins, based on reoccurring visual themes or characters. It helps me to find what I'm really looking for instead of just browsing through lengthy episodes looking for something that might work.

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Re: How to select clips?

Post by Kitsuner » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:59 am

seasons wrote:
Knowname wrote:
seasons wrote:I'm just running through episodes one by one and making subclips out of anything that looks usable. This is a horribly inefficient and time-consuming method but when I have (what I think is) a good but uselessly incomplete draft of the video in my head, this is the only method I've used to help bring it into clearer focus prior to editing.

I rarely take advantage of the extra sequence feature in Premiere, I might try LittleAtari's method just to see what happens.
uh. why not just use the entire episode
Because I like to categorize my clips into different bins, based on reoccurring visual themes or characters. It helps me to find what I'm really looking for instead of just browsing through lengthy episodes looking for something that might work.
On the other hand, by going to what you know you want immediately, you might miss out on something you didn't realize would work even better.
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Re: How to select clips?

Post by Knowname » Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:24 pm

Kitsuner wrote:
seasons wrote:Because I like to categorize my clips into different bins, based on reoccurring visual themes or characters. It helps me to find what I'm really looking for instead of just browsing through lengthy episodes looking for something that might work.
On the other hand, by going to what you know you want immediately, you might miss out on something you didn't realize would work even better.
two thoughts that have crossed my mind numerous times. I typically think like Kitsuner and prefer to comb the entire episode though it IS really boring and takes a lot of time :x I guess you could go directly to the footage you want if you really know it that well, but what I do is separate all these into sequences. In one sequence I very quickly make a draft out of the scenes I like. but in another sequence I do the full combing through the episode thing. Both methods have positives!

When combing through you ofc might come acrossed something you don't expect. This happens to me even on footage I know really well! I hate to say but... lol

When using your own clips THIS is where the true creativity takes place! see, using the combing method all your really doing is piecing the amv together... there's no real creativity, no remixing, involved! Now this method forces you into a more 'now or never' mode.

Both methods are good I guess, but if you've got infinite time lol I'd do both :) utilizing bins or sequences in this way is key
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Re: How to select clips?

Post by seasons » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:14 pm

Kitsuner wrote:On the other hand, by going to what you know you want immediately, you might miss out on something you didn't realize would work even better.
Perhaps I phrased my post wrong. In this pre-editing stage, I rarely have my heart set on using very many specific clips in specific places. It's in going through the episodes and making the clips that I start find those scenes that I otherwise would have missed out on, and to build a kind of mental outline of where the video is going to go.

I'm not saying my approach is unique or anything, I'd be surprised if most people didn't do it somewhat like this.

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Re: How to select clips?

Post by seasons » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:17 pm

Knowname wrote:When using your own clips THIS is where the true creativity takes place! see, using the combing method all your really doing is piecing the amv together... there's no real creativity, no remixing, involved!
okay dude, you win.

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Re: How to select clips?

Post by Knowname » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:04 am

that was horribly phrased thanks for pointing that out o.0 but it's pretty obvious what I mean by remixing. I mean adding stuff like changing the color of the car your using or puting that littlscreen on the wall effect because the scene you wanted didn't have that effect you wanted. so you improvised. there's not a whole lot of improvisation in the other method. I guess you COULD improvise with the other method but that would seem like doing both to me o.0

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Re: How to select clips?

Post by JaddziaDax » Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:38 pm

Make your entire video just improvising on the emotion of the song and clips...

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Re: How to select clips?

Post by Knowname » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:23 pm

I did that once and I thought it was pretty good... until I saw another one -|-
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Re: How to select clips?

Post by JaddziaDax » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:15 pm

I do that all the time...

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