AX2007 aftermath - The curse of Long Beach returns

animedork2075 · Post by **animedork2075** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:47 pm

Ok, I finally finished having a conversation with Katy about this whole mess, and they are indeed going to be doing the AMV contest next year. She said the only way James and Herself would stop doing it at this point, is if for whatever reason they were kicked off the team. She like me, feels the best way to take care of this issue, is to take it head on, and fight the system of people trying to supress the AMV contest. What I would reccomend, is to send as many messages to the Society for the Promotion of Japanese Animation, and explain how important the AMV contest is to you. Don't complain, or threaten them or anything at all. It will do more harm than good. Feel free to get as many people to send messages as you can. It's more or less a petition idea. You can contact them using the link below. Select the department as Guest Relations, and explain that you feel the AMV contest is great, and that you feel as though all the other crap interfering is a burden to the effect the contest has. Sorry if someone posted this already. I didn't see it though.

You can reach them at this link http://www.anime-expo.org/?q=general/contact_us

Select Guest relations and fire away.

Edit: It also looks like I will be helping them with the Contest again this next year.

YouTube · Post by **XStylus** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:31 pm

animedork2075 wrote:Select the department as Guest Relations, and explain that you feel the AMV contest is great, and that you feel as though all the other crap interfering is a burden to the effect the contest has.

Whoa, WAIT. That's a completely and utterly unrelated department to be sending all this stuff to. They handle the GOHs, and they have enough to worry about (as this year exemplified). Spamming that list is a good way to piss people off. I'll find the proper email address for you guys to say your piece later (and one that'll be heard), so just hold up on that.

I'll also see if I can't find some way of getting the Programming Coordinator on here to say her piece. I always like giving people the benefit of a doubt, and she seemed sincere when I talked with her.

animedork2075 · Post by **animedork2075** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:52 pm

xstylus wrote: Whoa, WAIT. That's a completely and utterly unrelated department to be sending all this stuff to. They handle the GOHs

That wouldn't be guest relations, and it wouldn't be posted either. Guest relations is run by nice people, and they do see, and read all those messages. I am only suggesting this, because the fact the AMV department is in jeoperdy. More than you would think. They assume it's a dieing department, and that it's less popular than the Masquerade, even though it consistantly fills more seats. You are all guests. Guest relations is a department that deals with issues and concerns of guests. I know who they are, and again, they are good people. Unless you send an e-mail to Chase or Ruby Wang, you aren't going to get a better address. I wouldn't reccomend it, since they seem to be the ones pushing to get rid of the AMV contest.

Inaaca · Post by **Inaaca** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:10 pm

animedork2075 wrote:Unless you send an e-mail to Chase or Ruby Wang, you aren't going to get a better address. I wouldn't reccomend it, since they seem to be the ones pushing to get rid of the AMV contest.

Well isn't it generally the point to get word to the people who are against the contest? Those are the people you're trying to convince, after all. If you only contact people who are already trying to save the contest anyways, you aren't going to change any opinions.

YouTube · Post by **XStylus** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:41 am

Inaaca wrote:
animedork2075 wrote:Unless you send an e-mail to Chase or Ruby Wang, you aren't going to get a better address. I wouldn't reccomend it, since they seem to be the ones pushing to get rid of the AMV contest.
Well isn't it generally the point to get word to the people who are against the contest? Those are the people you're trying to convince, after all. If you only contact people who are already trying to save the contest anyways, you aren't going to change any opinions.

Chase is awesomeness given human form. He's a public relations and industry relations guy, and he's accomplished amazing things for AX. AMV is not on his radar, as far as I know, and normally he'd be a great guy to talk to about the matter. Ruby, unfortunately, is on his team, and she's well known as being extremely anti-AMV for reasons that are a non-issue. It's anyone's guess what she'd say to him, but I doubt it'd be good.

Aside from that, I have no doubt that he'd be able to build the necessary industry bridges (both in the US and Japan) to bring AMV out of the shadows if AX instructed him to do so.

YouTube · Post by **Kionon** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:07 am

xstylus wrote:Ruby, unfortunately, is on his team, and she's well known as being extremely anti-AMV for reasons that are a non-issue. It's anyone's guess what she'd say to him, but I doubt it'd be good.

Having known Ruby for years (unfortunately), I think any guess I made would be fairly accurate.

But I think Chase is smart enough when to know a grudge is just a grudge and probably wouldn't allow her... ahem.... "insights" to dictate his actions should he be asked to help coordinate AMVs' presentation at AX.

YouTube · Post by **XStylus** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:25 am

In an article on AnimeNewsNetwork.com discussing some of the issues regarding AX, Chase Wang just went on record saying that AX is NOT trying to kill AMV, and would actually like to expand it.

The article is here: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/intervi ... -expo-2007

ANN.com: At the con gripe, there was someone complaining that AX was “out to get” the music videos shut down because they're becoming increasingly worried about the legality of the event. It's easy to understand this perspective; music videos are basically copyright violations, but for decades they've been tolerated across the board as a harmless fan event. Is there an attempt by AX to clamp down on the music video programming due to the legal issues with it?

Chase: I can tell you for a fact – and those are rumors – but to my understand there's no attempt to “clamp down” on the AMV programming. I can also tell you that the programming director has said to me that one of the reasons she got involved with anime was because of AMVs. I mean, I really can't speak for her, but I do know it isn't her goal to destroy the program. AMVs have been a big part of our programming for many years, just like the masquerade. If anything, we'd like to expand that program.

Although the question I had asked at con-gripe was about the panels rather than the contest itself, hey, I won't complain if it gets an on-record response like that. Heh... I just hope I don't get scowls over it next time I show up at a staff meeting. ^^;;;

Org Profile · Post by **Vlad G Pohnert** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:52 am

Hmm.. I don't know xstylus... I think you might be sticking up for AX too much (hey I do agree that it would be a shame for them to loose AMVs, but the politics are so messed up)...

However, cons like Anime Evolution, Sakura-Con and AWA (and the others I forget right now) have embrased AMVs to the point of having dedicated AMV Rooms... And YES, the room are quite FULL over the weekend.. In fact Sakura-Con is even giving me a much bigger room this year dedicated to AMVs! I'm also free to run the programming and I've had AMV gameshows, creator spotlight, themed blocks, panels and much more... You should come to one of them

I think we as creators NEED to support cons that support AMVs like mentioned above a lot more so they grow and become part of the Con culture... I mean, if AX trully wants to support AMVs and even enhance thier programming, they should look at an AMV room! I guarantee if run right by the right person it would be well attendeded and trully add more to to AX and for the fans! (hey, it would probalby get me to come back)

But at this point, I think it would be almost impossible to try and even ask if the panel this year is any indication

Vlad

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:15 am

Vlad G Pohnert wrote: But at this point, I think it would be almost impossible to try and even ask if the panel this year is any indication

What panel?

There hasn't been an AX amv panel in 2 years, other than the workshop.

YouTube · Post by **XStylus** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:42 am

Castor Troy wrote:
Vlad G Pohnert wrote: But at this point, I think it would be almost impossible to try and even ask if the panel this year is any indication
What panel?

There hasn't been an AX amv panel in 2 years, other than the workshop.

Uhm, the workshop was the panel, but if that's not enough then I'll gladly return to the helm and resurrect the panel for next year.