Suggested Format for AMVs Uploaded

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Suggested Format for AMVs Uploaded

Post by Anime-Kid544 » Fri May 07, 2004 2:27 am

I find that the .rm, or Real Media file is a good format to use when encoding.
I encode at a 128-512 Kbps template so the end file is small with great quality. I uploaded my "Trigun - Linkin Park - And One" AMV and it is only 11 megs. Ofcourse some people hate Real Player in all of it's crappyness (I hate it too :D), so there is Real Alternate. Just do a google and it is free. Even though I preffer .rm format, I still don't mind the convetinal .avi or .mpg. So it is just a thought to save server space, and time uploading. Please tell me what you think.

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Post by TobinHood » Fri May 07, 2004 2:47 am

I'll never make my vids into rm files. Can't stand em. And I know alot of people on this site won't download them and don't even have real player installed on there computer. Not many conventions will accept files in rm format either. I'd say stick with avis and mpgs.
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Post by Sir_Lagsalot » Fri May 07, 2004 5:57 am

I'll never make my vids into rm files. Can't stand em. And I know alot of people on this site won't download them and don't even have real player installed on there computer. Not many conventions will accept files in rm format either. I'd say stick with avis and mpgs.
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Post by Bote » Fri May 07, 2004 8:34 am

Xvid & DivX>RM>MPG

That's the way I see it. Xvid is the best solution for LOCAL upload I'd say, but if you want to have different versions of your video rm is a good way.

A 900kb/s .rm pawns 1300kb/s .mpg. I'm quite assured in that. A 900 kb/s rm preserves the quality very accurately without many pixelisation or ghosting while .mpg on 1300 has a huge ammount (I haven't seen a .mpg video under 1600 that was flawless in quality). A 500 kb/s rm can also be reeeally good. When it's up to low bitrate encodes it all depends upon the viewers comp. configuration. Sounds strange ain't it? Well, it isn't if you think about it. The better processor, RAM memory, graphic card....the more sharper and clearer the picture will be. That is if "Allow Hardware Acceleration" is checked. I'm still uncertain how does that work, but it works and that's important.

While I was converting my latest video (you have the link in the sig if you wanna check it, rm format :P ) I noticed that if you encode from your Huffy version to rm in 640X480, 29.97 FPS, 1300 kb/s the quality is near flawless :shock: . On top of that if you have a good comp. config. it looks just as good as if I'm watching a show through my DVD player. Really foeckin' sweet. That version looked much better than my .mpg on 1300 and 1300 Xvid to. I followed all the possible guides for Xvid encoding and I don't think I was wrong anywhere while encoding through 2 pass. The .rm still looked better. Xvid was pretty good to and could've been easily used like a final version, but since my modem sux I didn't upload a Xvid version, but a LQ rm version, which still has it's own good & bad sides though. The peps. that saw it on a good comp. configuration and had "Hardware Acceleration on" had the quality very crystal while some others thought it was an ok compression, but needed to be more crisp.

What I suggest is that you make a HQ Xvid version on LOCAL and represent only your best encode with it while the other much smaller version can be rm (500 kb/s).

.mpg is viewable by everyone therefore it has it's own advantages. Ignorant watchers won't have to dld anything and can use every player they want with it.

.rm is a great way to reach good quality picture with extremely low bitrates. Try making a 450kb/s version for all formats. You'll see that only .rm would be satisfying. While more faster modems weren't in such a use in the past .rm was a best way to preserve bandwidth for the servers and the filesize was satisfying for everyone. Nowadays more users have faster modems and therefore the bigger filesizes are quite reachable. Hell, even I with my dial-up took some time and dlded the 80MB videos :P . It's biggest bug is that it's format only works with RealPlayer (there aren't others I've encountered so far) and therefore lazyness of the viewers does it :? .

Xvid with DivX compatibility is the best way though. You get great very crisp quality (on higher bitrates looks flawless). And a huge number of computer users has to have it installed, therefore 80% (at least) of the watchers won't have any problems :) .

Whoever thinks that .rm isn't good for distribution is right in many ways. However, if the jerks from Real would make the format compatible for WMP or some other frequently used player I think it's use would have risen very very high. Really high bitrate rm compressions look very awesome, but as I said before dlding a new program is a big problem for some people. You stick with Xvid and everything is fine. I recommend you experiment with the rm quality settings on higher bitrates and you'll see what are the benefits of it :) . Of course there are options you need to take care of like FPS, resolution and chosing "2 Pass" & "Variable bitrate" in "Preferences" window. Try them all. :wink:
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Post by Zarxrax » Fri May 07, 2004 10:03 am

Well, RM is the best as far as video quality goes, and I would use it myself. The only problem is, you have to download an illegal codec in order to watch it without the realplayer. If real ever opened it up then i'd give it serious consideration. Until then though, its just a novelty, and can't be taken seriously.

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Post by derm » Fri May 07, 2004 10:42 am

Realmedia is the spawn ot Satan.

Every time you encode into rm, a kitten dies. Remember that.

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Post by Anime-Kid544 » Fri May 07, 2004 2:56 pm

Ok, ok. It was just a suggestion. shheeesss. I know how many people hate Real Player, but i've already upped my vids in .rm format (SHIT!). I hate Real Player too. I like using the real alt, but it is true that :twisted: Real Player :twisted: is from Hell.

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Post by Maverick-Rubik » Fri May 07, 2004 3:06 pm

.rm doesn't have that good quality to begin with.

Your signature is too big, too. :/

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Post by Zarxrax » Fri May 07, 2004 3:12 pm

Maverick7013 wrote:.rm doesn't have that good quality to begin with.

Your signature is too big, too. :/
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RM can result in far better quality than other compression formats available.

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Post by fizzucker » Fri May 07, 2004 3:14 pm

i like WMV and mpeg vids...4 sum reason, my comp wont play avi vids... :(

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