Anime is more for men or women?

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Anime is more for men or women?

Post by Evangelion Unit 01 » Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:13 pm

The reason I am doing this is becasue when I first got into anime the majority of it seemed to be directed at males in their teens. Even looking at the back of dvds I didn't buy. Then when I became the president of my high school anime club there were about 21 women and five men (myself included) Of course I had no problems with that ( :twisted: ) But now that I have gradued the new vice president and my brother both tell me there are only about 2 or 3 women and the majority men. At the anime cons I went there seemed to be the majority of both, so I am only wondering.

Just answer these question?

Your Gender
Your Age
And what age and Gender you think anime overall is dirrected at and why.

From me

Gender- Male
Age- 19
I think it is directed at men in there teens or twenties becasue one there is a lot of action in anime (and I don't know a lot of women in to action, please don't take that as a sexist statement). Plus in anime they can show women's breasts and ass, but never really show anything else. Well that's what I feel, and you?

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Post by Navi en Grey » Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:35 pm

Ahh ...

Gender - Male
Age - 15 (16 this august)

Uhh ...

I think anime is directed towards women because anime is considered "cute" to many girls I know. And the drawings are more towards women's taste, than men.

But some anime that are violent are obviously towards men. Yaoi anime and shoji anime are also towards women.

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Post by OzzieArcane » Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:49 pm

Gender - Male
Age - 23

The third question is kind of pointless. Different animes are directed at different audiences, there is just too much variety to narrow down who most of its target audience is.
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Post by HeartbreakerByZep » Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:25 pm

Gender - male
Age - 16
Which gender - duh, both. You've got your shoujo, and shonen. And even within those boundaries both girls and boys are interested. Anime is no more directed towards one sex or the other than movies or TV shows as a whole are.
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Post by AquaSky » Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:26 pm

As for the first two questions -
Gender : Female
Age : 19

And about anime's target audience, I'd say that the majority of it is aimed at men. That doesn't mean all of it, as there is a decent amount of anime geared toward women. However, by and large, it seems to cater more to males. For every sappy romance series out there, you'll find three more fanservice shows. It boils down to what the producers perceive as their main demographic, and that's obviously where they're going to put their effort.

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Post by HeartbreakerByZep » Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:32 pm

You might be right. But, be that as it may, I think what's considered "for men" is much broader than what's considered "for women." For something to be considered for women it has to either have a "girl power!" element or be a sappy romance. But for something to be considered 'for men' basically anything involving action, hot chicks, or anything other than sappy romance is usually labeled for guys. I refuse to beleive that the only things girls want to watch is 'girl power' and 'sappy romance'. Escaflowne would probably even be considered for guys.
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Post by aznfs » Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:35 pm

gender: male
age: 18

i think anime is generally aimed at adult males;; but i know that there is a wide ass area that anime/manga cover in all ages and genders
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Post by gforcecm » Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:37 pm

Gender- Male
Age- 15
I think anime has different aspects that appeal to different genders. For instance the intense storylines, guys, and love affairs appeal to women more than men. While the violence and hot girls appeal more to guys. All in all I think anime appeals to both genders overall! Besides it would be no fun if only one gender dominated anime.
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Post by DrngdKreationz » Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:50 pm

OzzieArcane wrote:The third question is kind of pointless. Different animes are directed at different audiences, there is just too much variety to narrow down who most of its target audience is.
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Post by EvaXephon » Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:25 pm

You're asking if anime is sexist?

Basically, no. I do not believe that anime is sexist. Japan itself is frequently cited as a nation that extends women certain rights, and even control over certain aspects of daily life such as family finances, but does not advance universal equality between men and women. Contemporary Japan is a sexist, male dominated society. But I do not believe that anime itself either condones sexist attitudes or represents sexist values. In fact, just the opposite; I believe that anime is one of the most feminist of cinematic genres. In fact, contemporary anime may actually be a reactionary response to the sexism evident in everyday Japanese society.

The argument that anime is sexist or that anime fetishizes and commodifies the female is grounded in superficial cursory examination without critical analysis or evaluation. At the most superficial level, it can be argued that the examples of anime best known to Western critics are those made by male animators for male viewers. These anime often feature sexy and attractive young female characters specifically designed to foster idolization by male viewers. Anime titles including Tenchi Muyo, Love Hina, Maburaho, Steel Angel Kurumi, Sister Princess, Eiken and Hanaukyo Maid Tai even promote male sexual fantasies by literally illustrating the male fantasy of being surrounded by adoring females.

Such arguments and examples may seem valid upon first presentation, but lose some of their ironclad credibility under close scrutiny. Especially in examples such as Maburaho, Hanaukyo Maid Tai, and Love Hina, the male isn't surrounded by women that are characterized as sexual objects or trophies. In fact, in these shows it is the females who wield power over the pitiful male. Kazuki Shikimori of Maburaho, Mifune Densuke of Eiken, and Keitaro Urashima of Love Hina are weak willed and easily manipulated males who almost totally subvert their own egos to women. Hanaukyo Taro of Hanaukyo Maid Tai is used as a plaything by Ichigo and her sisters. And he's allergic to women, making him helpless in a house filled with women. Taking that concept one step further, the men of Vandread are held captive by women, and shown as incompetent and buffoonish in their attempt to defend themselves against an attack by more competent females.

Representing the sort of empowering embrace of femininity promoted by feminist theorist Camille Paglia, anime frequently illustrates women who are equal to men in ability, influence and power without compromising their feminine sexuality. One of the best examples is the classic Dirty Pair, dating from 1985 to 1990. The original Lovely Angels were always mindful of female concerns like dating, clothes, and their looks. And they chose to wear revealing bikini-type uniforms. But when it came to work, the original Kei and Yuri were never at a disadvantage to men. The original Dirty Pair, despite their eager advocation of femininity or sometimes because of it, were always equal or superior to every male they encountered. Ghost in the Shell's Motoko Kusanagi is another example of a progressive feminist role model. Motoko is the leader of Section 9's field team, commanding the other five male members of the force. Although she is female, Motoko is faster, stronger, and smarter than her male counterparts. These two examples are only two out of a multitude of female anime characters who are smart, competent, the equal of the men in their society, and who are unashamed to exert their femininity.

Coming at the discussion from a second angle, it's impossible to say that anime promotes sexism by offering only exploitive wish fulfillment fantasies to young males because of the massive amount of existing anime created for female viewers. Dating as far back as at least 1967 there are examples of anime like Ribbon no Kishi (Princess Knight) created for female viewers. The massive Japanese success of girls' shows including Kodomo no Omocha, Marmalade Boy, Minky Momo, Creamy Mami, Sailormoon, and Ojamajo Doremi should effectively prove that anime targets viewers of both genders and doesn't exclusively pander to the primal desires of men alone.

Finally, the staff behind the scenes of anime furthermore contributes to the argument that anime is neither a male dominated field nor a genre that exists to subversively promulgate male dominance. The prominence of powerful female artists including Rumiko Takahashi, Naoko Takeuchi, Yuu Watase, Inomata Mutusumi, Akemi Takada, Atsuko Nakajima, and director Mitsuko Kase validates the anime industry as one that allows females equal opportunity as male artists, and establishes a significant female influence in the creation of anime.

In summation, as a commercial art intended slightly more for male consumers than females, it's inevitable that anime would include some female exploitation and fetishization of the female as sexual object. But, I think that a responsible evaluation of anime and its creative industry reveals that there are too many examples of powerful, uncompromising women in anime to allow for the generalization that anime is sexist and either male dominated or propagative of patriarchal stereotypes and paradigms. In fact, I think that evaluation of anime and the Japanese animation industry will reveal that both are far more liberal and supportive of expressive femininity and feminism than typical Japanese society is. Perhaps because anime deals with fictional idealizations and alternatives to real life Japanese society, created by liberal thinking individual artists, anime may actually be a sort of sub-conscious, left-wing, anti-establishment movement pointing out a desire for greater equality between the sexes in modern Japanese culture.
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