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Post by OzzieAlThor79 » Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:04 am

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/14993.html

On another forum I am on, people are upset about the fact the guy got in trouble since it's manga.

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Post by Ishbalan » Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:24 am

Old news.

That's just the way things work. Society has made him a scapegoat for their hopeless and ageless problems that have no real solution.
It happens.

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Post by OzzieAlThor79 » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:15 am

Kiddie porn is kiddie porn.

Scapegoat my ass.

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Post by outlawed » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:24 am

There is basically nothing known about the actual titles or full content but it was only a small part of a very large collection that was deemed obscene by the investigators.

Reading some of the links in this article shoudl give you a better idea why people are discussing this and why some notable figures and the CBLDF were backing his side.

http://www.mangablog.net/?p=4452

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Post by OzzieAlThor79 » Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:40 pm

Very true we don't know the exact title.

In the reports it talks about under age females in sexual acts with animals.

Now maybe I am giving my government too much credit, I think THAT would be hard to mistake.

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Post by Vivaldi » Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:31 pm

OzzieAlThor79 wrote:Kiddie porn is kiddie porn.

Scapegoat my ass.
Some is real, some is not.

How is that not an important difference? Are we persecuting thought crimes now?
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Post by Ishbalan » Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:41 pm

The purpose of the "no kiddie porn" law is that it is morally wrong to put underage children through that sort of treatment. The only harm that comes from pornographic manga is a slight wrist cramp. The theory that having child pornography encourages child abuse is pure Christian propaganda. The truth is that such material only helps to satisfy and quell the urges of those that suffer from a lolita-complex, which covers nearly 12% of the population (according to the Preface in the novel Lolita by Vladmir Nabokov :book: ).I recently read that the number of reported molestation cases in America was nearly 6 times that of Japan per 100,000 persons. Japan, the supposed source of the manga has a much more well-behaved populus than America.

The truth is that pedophiles have always existed and now the populus thinks that its a new symptom with a recent cause. Japanese art is the scapegoat because its something that they dont like and cant understand and they know they can defeat it easily with enough support.

There's literally nothing we can do about it. That's just the way the world works.

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Post by Knowname » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:37 am

How is that Christian propaganda sir? Do other religions not prioritize human life? Do they not all try to dictate what is and isn't possible? You should try killing a cow in India some day.
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Post by Ishbalan » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:58 am

Knowname wrote:How is that Christian propaganda sir? Do other religions not prioritize human life? Do they not all try to dictate what is and isn't possible? You should try killing a cow in India some day.
We're not talking about murder. We're talking about the hick cousin-fucking Americans tacking a solution that has nothing to do with the problem. Again.

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Post by wurpess » Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:28 am

Knowname wrote:How is that Christian propaganda sir? Do other religions not prioritize human life? Do they not all try to dictate what is and isn't possible? You should try killing a cow in India some day.
Yes, but we're talking about the US here. And generally, here, when people try to pass laws restricting people's personal lives and choices (like this, abortion, gay marriage, etc.), it's generally Christian ideals they're trying to turn into law.

You know, most of the loli fans I know are more likely to go after flat chested (legal) women than little girls (if that fandom even affects their real life taste in women at all). And one's taste in anime/manga girls/guys doesn't necessarily reflect what they'd go for IRL. Take me, for instance. I'm a known bishie fangirl. I'm also a shota fan. But IRL, I like manly men. Not effeminate pretty boy types, and sure as hell not little boys. So saying that just because I'm into shota that I'm on the verge of becoming a child molester is completely stupid.

And I don't see how some of the hentai out there is much different than some of the actual porn out there. I've seen some people in porn flicks who do NOT look like they're 18. Their birth certificate may say they are, but I've seen some who look like someone as young as 14 or 15. Sometimes portraying high school students, or someone otherwise underage. So, how is this much different than hentai manga and anime that features young looking characters?Both are depicting graphic sex with minors, or someone who looks like a minor, but don't actually use any minors in the making. 0.o

Idk, I'm ranting. It would be nice if things would change, but I have the feeling it probably won't. -_-
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