JOURNAL:
poolfan (Shane H)
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"Sometimes I get so weird..I even freak myself out...I laugh myself to sleep...It's my lullaby"
2002-12-14 04:36:22
Finally got a break from doing all kinds of shit to write this piece of garbage here.
This is going to be a long one so here goes....
What went on the past couple of weeks (i'm sleeping at home most of the time )
1) finished my FYP CA2 report and presentation...it was a horrible experience but my sup helped me out a bit and i actually did 2 good deeds on the day of presentation itself...even taking time to help a damsel and a (whats a guy damsel called) in distress.
2)Played ping pong with ZW, KB and well well well....my long lost fren (of the terrible quartet.. ) ZX....its good to play with someone of my own standard. Since its was a long time since we caught up...we did some soul baring all while smacking that little silly orange ping pong at each other
3)passed that dumb module (cAPITAL MARKETS BLAH BLAH....FINANCIAL ..ADVISORS..BLAH BLAH THEORY) while spending onli 1 day on that thick textbook...i'm a genuis!!!! well..not quite... i was saved by some ridicoulously easy questions , in fact there were at least 20 out of the 100 MCQs that had an obvious "ALL of the above" as the answer
for example
What do u tell your client when u recommend an investment product to him?
1) what did his parents feed him ?
2) you are only here for the money
3) if he doesn't stop shaking his legs, u r going to chop them off
4) all of the above
THIS IS TOO SIMPLE !
4) played 'No one lives forever 2'in ZW's place ..hey fun game!! and we watched a dumb movie on a vcd : whispering corridors which had nothing to do with corridors and whispering. It was more of a social commentary than a horror flick...but its a decent flick nonetheless
5) Watched Volcano High , it was awesome !!!!!!!! Move aside, Neo.
The james bond movie wasn't too bad either although it ended up being a spoof of a spoof of itself
6) sunday soccer day : please let me forget that horrible day
7)went on a 'date' with ... (ugh) in orchanrd road...funniest thing was how we joked about the ritchie ren lookalike on that terrible IKEA commercial
we'll never look at the phrase "I don't know" the same again
8) watched liverpool twice on Tv live : and both time they lost playing like virgin nuns !!! argghhhh!!!!!! Hou let the wimps out ???
Btw this is the last time i'll talk abt my boring life....from now on this is my very own rants column... sue me if u find anything here distasteful..just rmr to mail ur lawyer's letter to singapore.
9) been listening /watching/dreaming Michelle Branch and Avril Lavigne.
Both write their own songs/lyrics
Both play guitar and sing pop-rock.
Both CAN sing
Thats where the similarities end
Michelle is the talented one , quietly doing her music in a simple and sincere way. And what can in say abt her that hasn't been said already? The gurl's a frigging genuis..go Michelle!!! How did i miss her while watching the buffy episodes ?
On the other hand Avril is loud and brash and dishes pop stars like no tommorow. She wears some clothes bought from K mart in her videos and goes ard with a guitar on a skateboard wearing a tie. She claims to have a better body than Britney and thinks blink 182 is ROCK (lol...sorry couldn't resist)
Some people worship her and listen to her songs
Some people call her a hyopcrite and poseur and listen to her songs
She does have her fair share of controvesy...and its really ironic that talented artiste like Marilyn Manson , EMINEM and Avril needed to stiir up (unintentinally perhaps....but i think not) such things when there's absolutely no need to...
But somehow i think they are just playing us for fools....maybe controvesy does sell albums
Maybe in reality Avril is a poseur singing anti-poseur songs
Maybe Eminem talks about beating his girlfren .but only.....in chess
Maybe when MM talks about being anti-christ ..he was referring to Christian Gross (private joke) BTW i respect MM as an artiste and when u listen to his lyrics....it does not tell u to take drugs, commit suicide, kill pple and all that shit pple want u to believe..he tells us to be , THINK and do things for ourselves and take no shit from other pple who ostracise whoever they think is diff from them...thats all i'll say for now.
Anyway I dunno what to call her but i do know her songs are great!!. Michelle has the better singles but she has a better overall album: LET GO (awesome!!). I can't believe no one has made an AMV to "Sk8ter boi" yet..thats the closest thing to the perfect amv song since 'Mr Bean goes to town theme song' (ok ..maybe not quite :P )
Her are some of Avril's quotes....i agree totally that she has the right to say whatever she wants..but its just too funny :)
"I used to get in fights with guys and kick the crap out of them."
"Girls are strange. They have groups and don't want to let anyone else in.
I've had a hard time getting along with girls because of that."
"(Gasp) Britney Spears fully clothed?"
I created punk for this day and age. Do you see Britney walking around
wearing ties and singing punk? Hell no. Thats what I do. I'm like a Sid
Vicious for a new generation. People look up to me and want to be me. And
thats fine, just don't try to copy the sh*t I do!"
"My butt-crack showing is like my trademark. I wear my pants loose, and lately I've been so busy I've lost a few pounds. My ass-crack is always showing!"
"Nick Carter wanted me to sing on his album but, you know, it's not really
my thing. I'm not putting myself in the teen pop type of box."
"Michael Jackson freaks me out. What's with that fake nose?"
"Pink's pretty cool. She's just kinda like a poser."
"Christina Agu...who? I thought that w***e died!"
"People like Shakira shouldn't have record contracts. She cant even speak English."
"Britney Spears is such a hoe cake."
"People like comparing me to Alanis. Sorry, I take baths."
"Girls and guys can relate to my songs. They are deep and emotional. I wrote
those lyrics when I was trying to survive."
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"I'm put my trust in YOUUUUUUUU....."
2002-12-03 21:22:19
Just finished my presentation....what can i say? ARGHHHHHh!!!
Made 2 glaring errors in my presentation and was put out of bail by my supervisor a couple of other times when the examiner asked something i didn't quite know..esp the stuff about parameter extraction.
The stupid Class F circuit which i drew wrongly and the stupid waveforms that were supposed to be out of phase and NOT in phase
...now the examiner made a comment abt my concepts not being very strong when i knew it was just a dumb mistake on my part although i had a gut feeling he and my sup were suitably impressed with the report which i pumped hours of work into. Overall...my presenation is OK i think ...but the fact that i could have done so much better really sucks
Its just the presentation which i sort of messed up..oh well
And i can't believe i put my trust into 2 pple i never met before
I had to leave the keys of the seminar room with this guy coz he never brought his matric card along and if i had signed the key back in..he'd not be able to sign it out again.
And there's this girl who came into the room frantically looking for her fren who's supposed to hand over her laptop...somehow her fren bailed out and being the kind person that i am..i lend her Vince's (HE'S GOING TO KILL ME IF HE FINDS OUT )laptop. Well..i understand her feeling, 5 mins b4 a presenation and no laptop to present in...i wouldn't want to be in her shoes for anything ...well..almost anything
Well...i couldn't stay ard to listen to any of their presentations could i???
I had to burn some time b 4 i meet up with GM later so here i am typing nonsense but if the guy runs away with the key and all the expensive equipment in the room and the girl (Jane i believe her name was) runs away with Vince's laptop...u'll see me in the headlines tmr..but onli if u r in Singapore of coz.
But now i can proclaim..I'M FREE FOR THE REST OF THE HOLIDAY!!
Time for a new AMV perhaps??
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"We sing the Death Song, Kids coz we've got no future..and we wanna be just like u"
2002-12-02 11:36:05
Been listening to a lot of Marilyn Manson and Aimee Mann...its amazing how both artistes touch on basically the same themes depression, helplessness, self-doubt, and hopelessness and display the themes in such contrasting manners.(emotionally subtle and loudly paradoxical) .but both are friggin talented artistes...
The presentation is in 2 days, and i now have a laptop to present in thanks to Vincent who offered to lend me his. Thanks again dude..although i already did thank u personally
The powerpoint is 50% done while the report is nearly complete...IN 2 DAYS TIME...I CAN FINALLY BE FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
As for the Liverpool Vs ManU match..i dun even want to talk about it...i'm so emotionally numbed by recent dip in form that it no longer affects me anymore
Another howler by Dudek...hopefully Houllier sees the need to give him a rest this time
Watched another movie while i was typing my report: MY LITTLE EYE
What a little gem of a movie...in the words of the crtics its Blair Witch meets Big Brother and the ending...oh the ending...such depression..it left a sickening feeling in my stomach hourse after watching it. No there's nothing gross abt it..but the way the 'message' was shown onscreen..ugh..
Its a good movie..the second part at least...not better than Double Vision or the Ring but a decent one. At least it looks like an instant classic when compared to 'THEY'
Come to think of it..i'm writing a script for the sequels to THEY since any crapshitty script seems to make big bucks these days.
I shall name the sequels "THEM', "THOSE" and "THESE"
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In the world that I envision, Marilyn Manson isn't necessary. But thats not the world we live in--Marilyn Manson
2002-11-30 22:42:11
But whats real? You cant find the truth. You just pick the lie you like best. As long as you know everythings a lie, you cant hurt yourself--Marilyn Manson
You should have to pass an IQ test before you breed. You have to take a driving test to operate vehicles and an SAT test to get into college. So why dont you have to take some sort of test before you give birth to children? When I am President, thats the first rule I will institute--Marilyn Manson
I speak in reality. I dont try to hide anything from anybody, and thats the most dangerous thing about our music that parents are so afraid of-- Marilyn Manson
I fear being like everyone I hate, I fear failure, I fear losing control. I love balancing between chaos and control with everything I do. I always have a fear of going one way or another, getting lost in something, or losing everything to get lost in. And I fear being a completely acceptable sheep in society-- Marilyn Manson
We live in a society of victimization, where people are much more comfortable being victimized than actually standing up for themselves.-- Marilyn Manson
Society has traditionally always tried to find scapegoats for its problems. Well here I am -- Marilyn Manson
I like to pose the question to myself: Am I a man who thinks he's an Angel, or an Angel who thinks he's a man?-- Marilyn Manson
I was always trying to do different things to entertain people. And at the same time, I think, I was, whether subconsciously or not, trying to get kicked out of school because I hated it so much.-- Marilyn Manson
It's the whole Nietzche philosophy of you are your own God. That's why I debase myself in the concerts and tell people to spit on me. I'm saying to them 'You are no different from me'. -- Marilyn Manson
The word 'Antichrist' ,to me, is the collective disbelief in god -- Marilyn Manson
We wanted to be more serious...not really darker on this album...and heard in a different direction from already planned. --Ginger Fish
Christianity, like most religions, works with fear. Sins can be confessed and you are "clean again" and can start to sin again without thinking about your old sins. We believe that people should ask themselevs why they sinned. They should show some responsibility. --Twiggy Ramirez
Those who move beyond the albums title and the most blatent aspect of what I do, will then understand what I am trying to say. -- Marilyn Manson
I'm everthing they are afraid of. Everything they hate. Everything they try to hide, and alot more. Besides, I speak speak my mind and show people what's out there in reallity -- Marilyn Manson
And that's the type of thing I'm trying to speak out against the most, religion controlling what we see and what we do in our personal lives, even if you're not a part of that religion. Antichrist Superstar[the album] is a challenge really, to traditional morality and it's...to make people question that and make people think about different perspectives. -- Marilyn Manson
People love to judge, as long as they have somebody else to judge they don't give in and answer with hate would drag me down, it would simply put me into the same position they are, I don't believe that their position is an enviable one! -- Marilyn Manson
They'll see it. And it doesn't matter if they don't. It's only Rock 'n' Roll. But I do intend to move more into the Mainstream. Marilyn Manson is just the First phase. -- Marilyn Manson
The most outragous thing that I could imagine ever doing is putting on a pair of jeans and going to the shopping mall for my lunch -- Marilyn Manson
I never said to be like me, I say to be like you and make a difference -- Marilyn Manson
NO WE ARE NOT DEVIL WORSHIPPERS!!! I've never been and never will be a satan worshipper or someone who worships a devil. -- Marilyn Manson
There is good and evil within all of us, and I enjoy searching to bring that out through my music. I like it that there are questions brought out by my music. People must look inside themselves for the answers -- Marilyn Manson
People alway ask me what advantages fame has started to bring; there are always plenty of free drinks, but other times people wanna put stuff into your drink to kill you off. Their gonna have to try a lot harder if they want to get me. -- Marilyn Manson
What good would Marilyn Manson be if no one hated Marilyn Manson -- Marilyn Manson
It's not like I turn off Marilyn Manson and I'm an everyday guy who goes and has another job and doesn't think about any of this stuff. Marilyn Manson is the most real thing that can come from me. -- Marilyn Manson
The record is about seeing death and growing from it, and in the end, being strong and being alive. -- Marilyn Manson
My desire is to be pure again and not dirtied by the world. But it's my duty to be as ugly and as filthy as I am, so the audience can experience what I have. -- Marilyn Manson
We are a positive band and people aren't use to seeing the extreme negativity that we represent. I hope this record will have a positive effect on people. It's my personal study of looking at life. I came close to death and found my way back again. Our fans will understand. -- Marilyn Manson
A story might sell if there's a headline like 'Marilyn Manson admits to being Satanic', all the little hypocrites will go and buy the magazine, read about what evil, weird people we are and will feel better about themselves. -- Marilyn Manson
So anybody with any bit of intelligence has got to be pissed off because if they see how things are in the world, they're not going to be happy with it. -- Marilyn Manson
People would like to believe that this is the end, but it's only the beginning. Each album will take the message deeper and deeper into the recesses. I live for unpredictability and surprise, and I can assure you that the biggest surprises are still on their way. -- Marilyn Manson
Im not saying that when I perform Im Barry Manilow, but Im also not killing kids and beating up dogs and things like that. -- Marilyn Manson
Art is the free expression of the artist and they tried to stop us from expressing ourselves, our art. -- Marilyn Manson
Antichrist Superstar is also about me wanting to grow up and be something that people would adore...instead I grew up and became something that people hated. -- Marilyn Manson
Image and music always works together for me. I think they're equally important and I've always done things in a way that people remember them by, but I don't set out to just shock people...because that's very easy, a lot of people could do that, I just like to do things the way that makes me happy really. And sometimes that's too much for certain people, but, you know, I try to push the envelope to make the boundaries wider as far as what you can and can't do in music. -- Marilyn Manson
I'm not a believer of the "perfect world" TV tries to feed us. -- Marilyn Manson
Im thankful that I have two middle fingers.....I only wish I had more. -- Marilyn Manson
Theres days when Id love for everybody to realize that things have gone too far, and that we need to be born again so that we can appreciate the little things....then theres other days when I think the world deserves to be destroyed. Why should I help anybody? Everybodys stepped on me my whole life. Ive put on this crown....but Im not sure if I want it. -- Marilyn Manson
Why should we believe in a god, that doesnt believe in us? -- Marilyn Manson
As you keep getting more popular, people are continually wanting more from you and it seems to me that all they want in the end is your death. -- Marilyn Manson
There was a saying that I saw on a packet of sugar and I think anyone can apply it to their life: 'Dont bother telling the truth to a friend because he already knows it, and dont bother telling the truth to an enemy because he wont believe it. -- Marilyn Manson
I pity any one who has to spend the day with me. -- Marilyn Manson
There is a hurricane ablowing and just by knowing what you know, you have an advantage to the blind morons that surround you everyday. However not everyone can be saved. Ancient proverb: don't bother telling the TRUTH to your friend because he already knows and don't bother telling the TRUTH to your enemy because he won't believe you. Civilize those you can and fuck the rest. There are too many people in this world. It is not our responsibility to be constantly cleaning up after the weak-minded. Nature will eventually run its course and those too stupid to live will fortunately be crushed beneath the wheels of our progress. Assume your individuality. Culture can rob you of your uniqueness. That's how stereotypes exist, and not without reason. Anyone too wrapped up in the sheep mentality of their ethnicity can never truely express themselves as individuals. READ, Watch, LISTEN, DO what you want. BUT BE WARNED! You cannot have this freedom at no cost. You must pay in responsibility. If you listen to MARILYN MANSON and MURDER your FAMILY then you will go to jail. That's reality. If you decide to commit suicide for a song-SO LONG SUCKER! That kind of thinking has no place in our movement. Right now as a Family, as an Army we are limited as a minority. Laws bind us. But it is important to remember the law is only what is popular. Not whats right or wrong. Marilyn Manson rejects conventional morality and societys self-serving standards. When WE become the majority, we will decide who doesn't belong. As misanthropes and throw-away lods we will not submit to the mainstream. You will become it. And America should be very, very afraid. I AM YOU. -- Marilyn Manson
I did have a Huggy Beardoll. One of his legs fell off. That empty leg became a place where, when we were doing a lot of drugs on tour at one point, we would store the drugs in his empty leg. That's where the term 'dancing with the one-legged man' on Smells Like Children came from, because whenever anyone was doing drugs we called it the 'dance of the one-legged man.' That became a ritualistic thing that was funny for awhile. -- Marilyn Manson
When people say 'I want to be like you', I tell them if you want to be like me, then be yourself. -- Marilyn Manson
As you keep getting more popular, people are continually wanting more from you and it seems to me that what they want in the end is your death. -- Marilyn Manson
Its like, I guess just being offended by how much everything suck, I cant help but to be in a bad mood all the time. -- Marilyn Manson
The word 'Antichrist' ,to me, is the collective disbelief in god -- Marilyn Manson
A lot of people don't want to make their own decisions. They're too scared. It's much easier to be told what to do. Americans talk so much about being individualistic, but they don't want you to be an individual because if you think for yourself then you're not going to be a part of any trend that they want you to be a part of. They don't want you to think for yourself. They tell you they do so that you're happy and you're stupid and you're sheep. Anybody intelligent enough to realize what America is, is not going to sit around and do nothing about it. They're going to be the same way that I am. They're going to be the same way our fans are. They're going to be pissed. These people are artists. These people are musicians. They're taking it out and trying to express it that way. The rest of the world, who are just willing to accept it, are gonna be doing their everyday jobs, and they're going to be trapped in a rut, and they're never gonna see it until the day they die, and they're gonna be disappointed when they don't go to heaven anyway 'cause they were too stupid to realize that it's not going to happen. -- Marilyn Manson
Kids need to start thinking for themselves. Not to be like their friends that think they're individuals. I don't want you to be like us, I want you to be like you -- Marilyn Manson
There's days when I'd love everybody to relize that things have gone too far, and we need to be born again...but there are other days when I think the world deserves to be destroyed. Why should I help anybody? Everybody's stepped on me my whole life. -- Marilyn Manson
Its these sick things that they have been making up in their own heads. I didn't tell them these lies. So who is really the sick person? -- Marilyn Manson
We're just helping out the Christians by bringing about the apocalypse. They can all go to heaven -- Madonna Wayne Gacy
I think those boys are the work of the devil. I think someone is pulling their strings...yes, I'm very afraid of those boys. -- Marilyn Manson referring to Hanson
I don't like fun, it upsets me.-- Marilyn Manson
I was never afriad of what was under the bed. I wanted it but never got it. I became it. -- Marilyn Manson
We are against the beauty and fashion fascist regime that gets hyped in America and all over the world. "The Beautiful People" is NOT against people who style themselves in whichever way. --Twiggy Ramirez
Marilyn is real. I wake up and I am Marilyn. -- Marilyn Manson
I do feel the Cassandra Complex , where you know the future, but can't change it. I really want for things to be better, then I get depressed and pissed off and think. Fuck it, why bother? That's where Antichrist Superstar comes from. I expect to see some changes in Society from what I do, and I won't stop till I see a change. -- Marilyn Manson
Good and evil go hand in hand, you can't seperate them. -- Marilyn Manson
I read all the great philosophers but most people just hear what they want to hear and it makes it easy for them to brand us devil worshippers. --Marilyn Manson
Thinking for yourself - that's scarier than any devil image. -- Marilyn Manson
For me it's very important to express my thoughts, the pictures I carry inside of me, maybe because it's important to get them out... -- Marilyn Manson
You can't force someone to see the truth, just like you can't force a blind man to see. -- Marilyn Manson
I want to be a reason for them to take some time off and start to think. -- Marilyn Manson
I have something that makes me happy on some level and this is a good way for me to deal with the torment of that teenage life gave me--Marilyn Manson
Its my Duty to be as ugly and as filthy as I am, so the audience can experience what I have--Marilyn Manson
Its hard for me to accept any kind of role as a sex symbol when I am onstage, so I try to make myself more unattractive just to see what people’s reaction will be—Marilyn Manson
Mechanical Animals for me documents the repair of my emotions, the repair of my soul, and this record does deal with God in a different way. It deals with me finding God in art, and in music. I think there's more spirituality in art than you could find in a church--Marilyn Manson
If I believed in an outside force that we wanted to call God - and I believe that there is one. I think God would appreciate what I say, because I can't see God wanting to create a world full of idiots--Marilyn Manson
If God does exist, it's in music and in art, I think there's more spiritually in what I do than in a lot of religious groups judging, especially in the way they've treated me in the past couple of years. I've grown tired of talking about religion. It's time for me to move on. I'm trying to redefine the idea of spirituality and make it now such a bad word for myself, because I find that I sound really stupid saying it sometimes --Marilyn Manson
I believe nothing happens by accident. My fame has happened for a reason. My fans are my kindred spirits in revolution. If anyone chooses to ignore the message or the messenger, they do so at their own risk. Believe it or not, there are many more people out there that understand what I am trying to do than society wants to admit. The way I live my life represents a much bigger part of America than anyone would care to imagine –Marilyn Manson
There are definitely Dark Forces out there that none of us fully understand. People fear what they don't understand, and lash out against it --Marilyn Manson
There's a lot of great stories and a lot of great values in the Holy Bible, and I actually relate to a lot of them. The character, the idea, or the part of my personality that I describe as Antichrist Superstar, is a lot like Lucifer in the Bible. Someone who was kicked out of heaven because he wanted to be God – Marilyn Manson
There's a lot of talk in some of the other versions of the Bible, the Hebrew versions, and things about the end of the world not being a punishment from God, but being an invitation from mankind. That mankind has to invite its own destruction. And I think that's very true, and it's almost very American. I think that's the type of society we're in and it's people's very fear of the Antichrist that has created it -- Marilyn Manson
Man is still at the learning stage, and mankind is so arrogant to think that he's the highest form of evolution on earth. There's so much of the brain that we still don't use, and that's all I ever try to do - go to the next level -- Marilyn Manson
It happens every millennium. Now more than ever, man threatens to destroy himself with his own technology, and all the ideas contained within Big Brother exist within Little Brother. We're all watching ourselves. We are our own oppressors. This is a time when an idea like God is needed more than ever. For me, I've found that God exists within yourself and what you create. The only thing we've got to look forward to is saving ourselves -- Marilyn Manson
The 15 that I also refer to has several different importances. I've noticed that a lot of you have been coming up with your theories, and most of them are correct. And I think the more that you look, the more you'll discover. Fifteen is Biblical. Fifteen is numerological. Fifteen does correspond to the album's release date. Fifteen does correspond to the number six. Fifteen does correspond to my birthdate. Fifteen does correspond to half of my age this January fifth, which is also one-five. There are a lot of very important numbers that help fulfill the prophesy that I kind of created for myself on Antichrist Superstar. Hopefully, that answers that question for you --Marilyn Manson
Things like, people saying the new album would debut at number one on the Billboard Charts in the U.S. and I said, "No it's gonna be number Three." Because Number 3 is a very powerful number on the album. It's repeated quite often. Then it did chart an Number 3. Was it a coincidence you decide. If your in touch with your subconscious, you can really use it to your advantage --Marilyn Manson
He's just simply John5 because he's the fifth person that we've hired. In the future, everyone will have numbers instead of names --Marilyn Manson
My fans make me feel as young as they are. We share the same spirit and I share their outlook on life --Marilyn Manson
If anybody wants to be a rock star they've gotta try hard enough. They're not gonna get it handed to them--Marilyn Manson
I think there's a danger with any great art, that if you begin to test your ideas on other people, and get their opinions before making decisions, or if you pay too much attention to what other people say about what you create, that it really pollutes your expression. I think that I'm much more about pure art and honesty and expressing exactly what I feel, and not caring so much what anyone says. However, I do respect, and I do pay attention to everyone's comments. And I do take them into consideration. But I don't base my decisions by it--Marilyn Manson
The Internet is a very powerful tool, but right now it's being handled by a lot of fools. And I think us together, Marilyn Manson as a whole, what we all stand for, should be the biggest spider on the web. I think that it will become our web. Not something that uses us, but something that we will control--Marilyn Manson
I don't think we should ever regret anything we do. I think we have to accept the consequences and you learn from your mistakes, and that's how you grow as a person --Marilyn Manson
My dream of an apocalypse that was the Antichrist Superstar has unfolded. I could see that they only looked and acted like humans, but they had lost their souls, they were Mechanical Animals --Marilyn Manson
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"I fear being like everybody i hate, i fear failure, i fear losing control. i love balancing between chaos and control with everything i do. i always have a fear of going one way or the other, getting lost in something, or losing everything to get lost in
2002-11-30 12:34:21
greetings. this page was created mainly to give people a little information and to clear up some common misunderstandings and rumors. i think it's important for everyone who is either a fan, or who opposes manson, to know something about the band. as a fan you ought to be able to provide some basic information to people who ask questions. if you are against manson then you should at least understand what you are opposed to. believing in unconfirmed rumors is just silly.
marilyn manson was born with the name brian hugh warner, and changed his name to marilyn manson in the late eighties. his mother and most of his family call him brian, his father calls him manson, saying it is out of respect for the artist, which i'm sure manson appreciates. a lot of people try to show off and call him brian, but i believe he's prefer being called mr. manson.
"marilyn manson-i picked that as the fakest stage name of all to say that this is what show business is, fake. marilyn monroe wasn't even her real name, charles manson isn't his real name, and now, i'm taking that to be my real name. but what's real? you can't find the truth, you just pick the lie you like the best. as long as you know everything's a lie, you can't hurt yourself."
manson was born in canton, ohio, where he attended a christian school, called heritage christian. he has mentioned in interviews that he learned a lot about the music genre he later got into at school, as during assembly they would show students the "wicked" records and order them not to buy them. apparently the young brian went into business for himself at that time. he would purchase the forbidden albums and sell them to classmates who weren't allowed to listen to such music. later he would steal the albums back from unlocked lockers. i find that very funny somehow, don't you?
"i'd like to ask [Marilyn Manson], did i influence you in any way to this lifestyle? i kept thinking 'wow, is there something i did that i should have done differently?'" -carolyn cole, former principal of heritage christian school
later, the warner family moved to boca raton, florida. mr. manson studied journalism in college, before quitting to pursue his musicial dreams. he says that he "wanted to be the one answering the questions" instead of the interviewer, he wished to be interviewed, which he is. a lot. *s*. he was involed in a few different short-term bands, such as mrs. scabtree and satan on fire. one song "herpes" which names girls in the area with std's was played on the local radio station. mrs. scabtree and satan on fire stuff is really rare...buy it if you see it! he has also been in fairy with billy corgan of the smashing pumpkins, and a few other bands. from the beginning, marilyn manson (formerly known as marilyn manson and the spooky kids) was a strong band with a playful attitude masking a serious mesage.
since the early days of marilyn manson, the band has been really fan oriented. there was originally a spooky-kids hotline, and some messages from it can be heard on various bootlegs and demos, such as the demos in my lunchbox series, from the no-longer-in-existance kts.
there used to be regular newsletters, featuring hand drawn art of manson, that were sent out to fans. i have some, others i would love a copy of. the marilyn manson family was set up early in the bands existance, and still is around today. it's a fan club, you get an adoption certificate, some promotional items, you are put on the mailing list, and once in a while you recieve neat bonuses. for instance, all family members were sent a cassette copy of the single "dope show" in august of 1998. want to sign up? check out satan's bakesale
the first album out by marilyn manson was "portrait of an american family". there have been two other albums, and two ep's. the albums are "antichrist superstar" and "mechanical animals", and the ep's are "smells like children" and "remix and repent". numerous box sets, demos and bootlegs have emerged as well. many books have been writted about manson, the official auto-biography is entitled "the long hard road out of hell". i recommend that everyone read this book, even if you don't like manson. it's interesting, and it provides a ton of facts, half-truths and outright lies. plus, it puts thoughts in your head that can be used on a rainy day.
rumors have been a huge part of marilyn manson on the internet. of course, they are false. manson didn't get a rib removed to give himself oral sex. he wasn't on the wonder years. he didn't stick a fork in his eye and leave it there for the remainder of a meal *my favorite from coyotes page*. for more rumor-busters, visit coyote's and check out the biography as well.
does marilyn manson encourage drugs? people ask me this all the time. marilyn manson doesn't encourage anything, except individualism.
"we really represent individuality. kid's should think for themselves. not to be like your friend who think they are individuals, but to be like you. not to be like us, but to be what you are"
marilyn manson makes no secret of his drug use, but he doesn't push drugs. if fans do drugs because of him, they are missing the message. he doesn't encourage suicide, satanism, rebellion or violence either-those are common misunderstandings made by people who don't listen to the music, misunderstand the lyrics, want to spread hatred against marilyn manson, or are just confused.
many heavy metal groups get blamed for the suicides of fans. but the blame does not belong to them. the kid, or adult, who chooses to kill themselves makes a choice. they want to die, or at least they think they do. no musician hands them a gun or a knive and says "do it!". why would they? the blame might lay with the parent though. after all, it's the parent or family that lives with the child. they can notice depression, anxiety, frustration, eating disorders, self-injury, change in personality, etc. they can talk to the child or get them some help. they can care enough to do something besides sit by and ignore behavior that bothers them. but, to stick with the topic, manson does not encourage suicide. he thinks it's pathetic, weak and stupid. he has said so.
contrary to popular belief, marilyn manson is not a satanist. he was given the honor of reverendship by anton szandor lavey, the founder of the CoS, church of satan. marilyn manson is not a spokesperson for the church, he just shares SOME of the beliefs. he also shares some ideas from christianity and a variety of other religions, as well as personal ideas.
mr. manson does not host "altar calls" to satan, nor does he suggest that those attending his concerts sell their souls to satan. there are no satanic circles at the shows, nor satanic rituals, black magic, animal or human sacrifice or satanic orgies. no one is forced or asked to sign an allegiance to satan, no one is required to renounce god. mr.manson makes no religious requirements of his fans. there are fans of all religions: jews, atheists, wiccans/pagans, hindus, christians, satanists, tribal and native practitioners, agnostics, buddhists and others. you don't have to be any religion that you don't really believe in.
"i don't want people to mis-conceive me as a spokesperson for the church of satan"
"the lyrics and ideals expressed on the antichrist superstar album are those of a character called antichrist superstar. i portray this character, as does everyone else in america. those who fail to admit this are the ones who will be offended."
a common mistake is to assume mr. manson hates everything. in truth he hates christianity, how they have warped a lot of ideas and made them bad instead of helpful. perhaps you are curious, why is christianity bad? well, it's not, if you truly believe and follow those beliefs. but a lot of christian don't. they kill and hurt in the name of god. they are made to feel superior to others. plus, a lot of brainwashing goes on, and it can be damaging. manson himself suffered many nightmares of armageddon due to religious teachings.
that covers a lot of information. if you wish to read some quotes from manson, or quotes from others about the man or the band, i suggest that you stop by the filth pages. also, for more info and a timeline, check out the history page. if you have any questions, or want my opinion on something, or want to inquire about purchasing an item mentioned here, please feel free to email me. :)
"..sell your soul to yourself, you'll make more money that way.."
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