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Virtual Memory

Post by johndude33 » Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:18 pm

I've boosted it in System, I've closed everything after a reboot and stay offline...

Any other ways to increase my virtual memory? I'm sitting at 384Mb right now, and it still isn't willing to save for me. Do I need a RAM update? Or should I clean up my hard drive? I do have 20 gigs free out of 40.
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Post by post-it » Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:45 pm

? what Operating System are you working with, that you need that much memory open, and to what ends will it be needed ?

512 meg of RAM is more than enough to do ANYTHING - except High End Graphics!

- just curious 8-)

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Post by johndude33 » Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:53 pm

I use XP.

and i have 128 MB of RAM with an Intel CPU 3.06 GHz

I need RAM dont i?
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Post by post-it » Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:58 pm

. . . . ... yup.

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Post by Zarxrax » Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:05 pm

johndude33 wrote:I use XP.

and i have 128 MB of RAM with an Intel CPU 3.06 GHz

I need RAM dont i?
WOW...
3.06ghz and only 128mb? Thats seriously messed up. Hell, you are supposed to have 128mb just for XP ALONE!

I had 3x that much ram years ago when I was on a 650mhz...

You need more ram BAD. Get AT LEAST 512 mb, 1gb is better.

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Re: Virtual Memory

Post by trythil » Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:08 pm

johndude33 wrote:I've boosted it in System, I've closed everything after a reboot and stay offline...

Any other ways to increase my virtual memory? I'm sitting at 384Mb right now, and it still isn't willing to save for me. Do I need a RAM update? Or should I clean up my hard drive? I do have 20 gigs free out of 40.
Either set a large, fixed swapfile size (like 2x your current amount of RAM, although with 128MB of RAM even that's not enough...try for at least a gig), or let Windows handle your swapfile allocation. I've never had XP stop at 384MB of physical + virtual unless I instructed it to do so. If your system does, then something is very wrong with it.

The best solution, of course, would be to buy more RAM. Willingly running a bloated piece of software like XP on 128MB of RAM is like stabbing yourself in the eye while screaming out in orgasmic joy: you'd have to be a masochist to do that. The only reason to not buy more RAM would be if you're tied to something like RDRAM, in which case you're just screwed unless you're rich :P
post-it wrote: 512 meg of RAM is more than enough to do ANYTHING - except High End Graphics!
Try complex compilation. 512MB of RAM doesn't cut it there, either.

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Re: Virtual Memory

Post by Zero » Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:21 pm

johndude33 wrote:I've boosted it in System, I've closed everything after a reboot and stay offline...

Any other ways to increase my virtual memory? I'm sitting at 384Mb right now, and it still isn't willing to save for me. Do I need a RAM update? Or should I clean up my hard drive? I do have 20 gigs free out of 40.
I don't know about you, but fumbling with the setting in the first place was a mistake. Let Windows handle it and you should never find a problem with a VM shortage.

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Re: Virtual Memory

Post by Arigatomina » Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:27 am

johndude33 wrote:...and it still isn't willing to save for me.
What isn't willing to save? If you're talking about the program I think, it won't save no matter how high your memory is. Whoever told you to mess with the memory settings and hope for the best should be shot - read the help file in the program you're trying to 'save.' Chances are it'll tell you whether increasing memory will fix that problem. I'm betting it won't. Higher *virtual* memory is good to prevent lock-ups, but it won't help you save a program that doesn't want to save.

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Re: Virtual Memory

Post by Kaji01 » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:44 am

Arigatomyna wrote:
johndude33 wrote:...and it still isn't willing to save for me.
What isn't willing to save? If you're talking about the program I think, it won't save no matter how high your memory is. Whoever told you to mess with the memory settings and hope for the best should be shot - read the help file in the program you're trying to 'save.' Chances are it'll tell you whether increasing memory will fix that problem. I'm betting it won't. Higher *virtual* memory is good to prevent lock-ups, but it won't help you save a program that doesn't want to save.
Isn't virtual memory what the programmers for these kinds of programs fall back on as an excuse for just about anything they don't feel like explaining how to solve?

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Re: Virtual Memory

Post by trythil » Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:41 am

Kaji01 wrote: Isn't virtual memory what the programmers for these kinds of programs fall back on as an excuse for just about anything they don't feel like explaining how to solve?
There ARE situations in which insufficient memory will render programs unable to save data. A program attempting to allocate memory for a given purpose is usually informed if the allocation request was successful or not; if it wasn't, then the program is free to take an appropriate action.

However, you don't often see this on modern operating systems BECAUSE OF the virtual memory subsystem, and proper management of it. The only way you could stop an otherwise functioning VM subsystem from working is if you badly futzed it up.

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