AMVs in others language than English or Japanese

godix · Post by **godix** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:55 pm

Not only are there non-english AMVs there's an entire <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... project</a> using non-english songs.

Serenities · Post by **Serenities** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:56 pm

Tatu's russian songs have been used as well I think ^_^

devilmaykickass · Post by **devilmaykickass** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:18 pm

Yeah, I've seen a few. They aren't really common, but not extremely either.

Unlimited Rice · Post by **Unlimited Rice** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:35 pm

there's some vietnamese amvs around..

SarahtheBoring · Post by **SarahtheBoring** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:59 pm

pen-pen2002 wrote:Non-English/japanese AMV's are awesome because you get to treat the voice as an instrument and foucus on tone and emotion without all that pesky meaning getting in the way.

Bwuh? You can never ignore lyrics in English and Japanese? News to me. (Tainted Donuts, anyone?)

And conversely, I once lyric-synced in a language I don't even speak (Portuguese), going by translations. This is by no means a rule. I don't like the idea that you "get" to ignore lyric sync just because it's not one of those two languages. I think you can make that decision to "treat the voice as an instrument" no matter what language is being sung. (And it's a little icky to assume that other languages "don't count" while Japanese and English do. In my opinion.)

Anyway, original post, there are hundreds of AMVs in other languages, if not thousands. Heck, an AMV in mixed French and English won Best Character Profile in the last VCAs. Just look around.

FurryCurry · Post by **FurryCurry** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:13 pm

There are/have been a few japanese-lyric songs I've had an interest in using for an amv, but it would just bug me too much if I didn't have a fairly trustworty english translation of the lyrics, so I could get some sort of sync going there.

I haven't had very good luck finding translations of the full-length version of songs I'd want to use either, but I admit to not looking very hard.

Also, the issue of "to sub, or not to sub" bugs me. If I do find a good translation, and it's cool with the person who did it for me to use it, do I throw it in there on the video, taking away from the attention to my editing, or have everyone miss out on my "awesoem lyric sync"

by leaving it clean?

I know, the best answer is probably to use a matroska container, and have a separate sub stream, but that brings all sorts of problems of it's own:
Getting people able to play it back, and even worse, me having to properly learn how to use some sort of subtitler and how to mux the output into a .mkv file along with the a/v parts.

Melina-chan · Post by **Melina-chan** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:13 am

Well Thanks everyones for the advices!(especially Penpen) It will be really useful.
But I thought about making subtitles......Good idea or not so great??

Scandia · Post by **Scandia** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:25 am

I don't think making subtitles is such a good idea unless it adds directly to the AMV. Many people dislike subtitles and may assume they are part of the original anime that you just did not remove.

istiv · Post by **istiv** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:32 am

soon i'll do an AMV on a creole song (the language of the island where i come from). it will be a world premiere for sure !!

pen-pen2002 · Post by **pen-pen2002** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:34 am

Melina-chan wrote:Well Thanks everyones for the advices!(especially Penpen) It will be really useful.
But I thought about making subtitles......Good idea or not so great??

This has been discussed before so you can do a forum search for more info.

In a quick summary: There is soft subbing and hard subbing. Soft subbing the viewer can choose wether to view the subs or not but it required you to use a difrent container such as matroska. Hard subs will display every time you play the video. In my oppinion most creators have, or are willing to get, matroska but some fans may be too lazy and people who don't know what they are doing might send you e-mails or somthing (anyone in this thread have a matroska video?)

Hard subbing can work, after all we are anime fans and know how to read subtitles but they will still be distracting (use a good high quality font!) and will take away from the enjoyment of the video. I personally wouldn't recomend them because I think people can get a lot from context and tone even if there is lyric synching. You can always post a translation on the video comments. Good luck.

SarahtheBoring wrote:And conversely, I once lyric-synced in a language I don't even speak (Portuguese), going by translations. This is by no means a rule. I don't like the idea that you "get" to ignore lyric sync just because it's not one of those two languages. I think you can make that decision to "treat the voice as an instrument" no matter what language is being sung. (And it's a little icky to assume that other languages "don't count" while Japanese and English do. In my opinion.)

I didn't mean it to come out that way. I certainly don't elevate english over other languages but the vast majority of the people on this site speak english. About treating it like an instrument the brain is set up to focus on the meaning of words if you understand them and it's hard to get past that, while in other languages you can just focus on the beuty of the sound.

/end long post