Anyone worried what RIAA's latest action will do to AMV's?

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:04 pm

I hope they throw the lot of you in jail...
'cause you know...that would be funny...
and stuff...

yeah...

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:13 pm

Alucard_FoN wrote:Someone was willing to kill John Lennon after all .

The hippy sinner had it coming, too. He offended GOD by eating heathen granola and smoking pot. GOD would've melted off his genitals, but instead he chose to teach this "famous man of man" a lesson, in the hopes that the unsaved who followed his depraved path would see the light, AND REPENT!

Alucard_FoN · Post by **Alucard_FoN** » Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:14 pm

Heh. Filthy unwashed hippy. Oh wait, that kinda applies to all of the beatles at one point in their lives or another.

Chaos Angel · Post by **Chaos Angel** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:12 am

The RIAA can't prosecute everyone. The jails wouldn't hold them all.

I'm not going to pretend that they can't track people down who use P2P programs, all they need to do is get a court order to obtain e-mail addresses, then go through those companies to find the home addresses of the people who signed them. Now, the cost of doing this for the whole country, in both money and man-power, would be astronomical. I bet it would cost more than they would get from the lawsuit.

Personally, I think it's a big freaking scare tactic. It's pretty much not feasible to track down everyone. I think the whole "search people's computer's" thng pretty much violates the amendment against illegal search and seizure and privacy laws. They can't issue a global warrant for all of America, I don't think.

It's simply an insurmountable task from any standpoint you adopt. It'd cost too much and detract from more vital resources.

The issue of quality of music released is not the case. People download crap like Trapt and Smile Empty Soul (I fucking HATE them) and people download good stuff like Radiohead and Geggy Tah and Depeche Mode and Burning Airlines. They feel that people should pay for their products, and they should, but they are making a big mistake by not allowing people to sample the product before buying it. Christ, I like to preview a CD before I plunk down money for it. It could by the $12 I paid for Hail to the Thief today, or it could by the $5 I put down for a used-yet-good-condition Action Figure Party last week on Amazon (HURRY THE FUCK UP USPS!!). It's still money out of my checking account, and I like to hear a bit of what I am buying before I get it. You wouldn't buy a car without test driving it, why shouldn't you be able to hear a couple tracks from a CD before you buy it? I don't like buying anything blindly, although I have occasionally (Bastard, Metropolis...), and I see no reason, aside from flat-out greed, why I should shell out money only to find out that I hate it completely.

Even though I have before... >_< I wish to avoid it if at all possible, though.

Tab. · Post by **Tab.** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:27 am

they could always pull out random people and prosecute them as examples, that would be a pretty effective scare tactic I'd think.
But most people probably wouldn't give a shit.

AznRAVEr1022 · Post by **AznRAVEr1022** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:35 am

FUCK THE RIAA

Farlo · Post by **Farlo** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:42 am

AznRAVEr1022 wrote:FUCK THE RIAA

indeed...i dont really care, i own the cds that i ripped all my mp3s off of.

and again..its not piracy that is killing the music industry its shitty music

what would they get from sueing someone like me anyways, im broke, so i dont care

Madzack · Post by **Madzack** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:31 am

What else can I say, but:

HI, MADZACK FROM MALAYSIA, AND I'D LIKE TO SAY "FUCK YOU AND GOOD LUCK"!!!!

[AV] ChOjIn 69 · Post by **[AV] ChOjIn 69** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 8:50 am

I feel sorry for the poor schmucks who are going to be used as examples by the RIAA. Face it people, while it is numerically and statistically impossible to crack down on all bootleg music/ "musical piracy" as those ass pirates call it, you know that they are going to try. And you know the people they are going to target would probably be some poor kid who, while he does d/l mp3's, actually buys the records after sampling them. And after the billions of dollars they are going to waste on legal shit goes down the tubes, the supreme court will eventually step in and tell the RIAA to FUCK OFF. But this will never come to pass until some American becomes the unlucky target of their attention first and the case actually goes to court in America.

WhereNext · Post by **WhereNext** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:18 am

It is a scare tactic, because they legally cant take any legal action against people on peer to peer networks, they can only take legal action if you posted the songs like on a website for the masses to receive. There is a law(can't remember the name of it) that was originally designed to protect people that made a comp tape and give it to there friends, well basically the law says that you have the right to give copies of music to people on a one on one basis, this law was intended for cassette tapes but this issue was brought up during the whole napster trial, and the members using the p2p programs were found to be protected under that law. But if you want to get all into the legal aspect of things, we are all breaking the law by publicly displaying AMVs without the proper licensing. In order to place an article of music to any moving picture you need to acquire a synch license, then you would need the licensing for the anime, and the licensing to display it on the internet, and if you showed your videos at a convention then there is yet another license that you would suppose to have(or the convention officials are suppose to obtain actually, if the convention got the license it would be called a blanket license, don't know what it would be called for an individual). But i think the majority of anime and music companies see making AMVs as more of an advertising form for there products, you don't get the music in a ready to play(in a cd player/stereo) format, and the anime is made into a little commercial(most doing a better job of portraying the anime than the actual trailers made by the anime company), showing you there product and encouraging you to buy it.

Well it hink i have added for than my share to this discussion, if anybody finds anything i posted to be untrue please let me know, it has been awhile since i studied Entertainment Law.