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Post by Scintilla » Tue May 27, 2008 4:44 pm

xstylus wrote:
Though I know there are programs out there that can fix clipping if it's not too bad (Adobe Audition comes to mind; I don't know if it had this functionality when it was still Syntrillium Cool Edit Pro).
While there's varying severities of clipping, there is no way to "fix" clipped audio. If you've got a song that's clipped but "isn't too bad", the best thing to do is leave it alone. The only true way to fix clipped audio is to recapture the audio and pay closer attention to the levels.

Clipping is exactly what it is. It results from levels being set so high that it hits against the peak, or "ceiling" as I call it. When the levels are cranked up, anything above the ceiling is chopped away like a lawnmower cutting a blade of tall grass.

Even if you bring the levels back down, that doesn't bring back the parts that were clipped off, and thus such parts of the song sound flat and distorted because some of the sound data that was there is gone.
I know all that, and of course the programs I'm talking about have no way of restoring exactly what was there before the clipping. But from what I understand, they guess at it by analyzing what the wave looks like coming into and going out of the clipped sections; there may be some other fancy mathematical transforms going on too, I don't know all the theory. Such guessing generally seems to work better when the clipping is not too extreme; that's why I said what I said about "not too bad".

When Adobe Audition attempts to fix a clipped section, it does NOT bring the levels back down at the same time (unless you tell it to); it tries to fill in the missing sections of waveform by adding samples ABOVE 0 dB FS. It leaves the waveform like this until you either normalize back down to below 0 dB FS or save (and if you save first, then of course you're just chopping off the peaks again, defeating the purpose of fixing the clips in the first place).
milkmandan wrote:A great example of this is Linkin Park's - What I've Done song.
If you've ever heard it on the radio and then heard it from the CD player, you'll notice the radio version is normalized, as the intro piano is at the same volume as the chorus. In actuality the piano is quite soft. You lose that dynamic audio range.
No, that is NOT normalization, that is <i>dynamic range compression.</i>

Normalization scales everything evenly to fit a given peak sample value -- it either makes everything louder or makes everything softer. It is not for evening out levels between parts of a track.
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Post by DigitalPanther » Tue May 27, 2008 4:46 pm

Castor Troy wrote: I'll be there since I got nothing else to do at the con. Now to buy my one day pass. :)

How many tickets per creator since I have 2 guests I want to bring. If it's 2 like the past years, I'll probably have to get another ticket the standard way.
At this point figure on two per entry form. I am still waiting for the head of programming to return from her birthday escape.

I can't wait to razz her about it. :twisted: If I can do AX work on my b-day so can she. :twisted:

Once she returns I will verify the ticket situation.
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Post by anneke » Tue May 27, 2008 4:47 pm

I won't make it to the panel, so where/what do I go/do then for the ticket?

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Post by DigitalPanther » Tue May 27, 2008 4:51 pm

anneke wrote:I won't make it to the panel, so where/what do I go/do then for the ticket?

-Anneke
UMMM .... we will have to work something out. If I am able to make it to the creator dinner that is a possibility (though unlikely given my other duties) for most of the con I wil be living in Nokia so you can always go there and ask for me I suppose. Or maybe I can leave your tix with Anneke at Nokia. We can probably work something out.

However, if you can show up to the panel for even the briefest of moments that would be the easiest path.
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Post by Castor Troy » Tue May 27, 2008 4:58 pm

Ticket info for people not making the panel...
Regular Attendees

Attendees who are not part of the Anime Expo® Hotel Room Block or have not purchased Reserved Seating tickets may wait in line on the day of the event for any unclaimed event tickets.

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Visit Anime Expo® Registration to obtain a valid badge and badge holder.
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Line up at the east entrance of the Nokia Theatre L.A. Live three (3) hours before show time on the day of the desired event. Tickets will be distributed, 2 per person, on a first come, first served basis. Please note that queuing for tickets at that time does not guarantee you will receive one. The number of tickets given out is based on availability.
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Doors will open for seating 90 minutes before the event’s scheduled start time.
http://www.anime-expo.org/convention-in ... formation/

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Post by KagatoAMV » Tue May 27, 2008 5:03 pm

DigitalPanther wrote:
anneke wrote:I won't make it to the panel, so where/what do I go/do then for the ticket?

-Anneke
UMMM .... we will have to work something out. If I am able to make it to the creator dinner that is a possibility (though unlikely given my other duties) for most of the con I wil be living in Nokia so you can always go there and ask for me I suppose. Or maybe I can leave your tix with Anneke at Nokia. We can probably work something out.

However, if you can show up to the panel for even the briefest of moments that would be the easiest path.
-DP
Maybe have another creator "proxy" for you and meet them before the contest?

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Post by The Wired Knight » Tue May 27, 2008 5:12 pm

At what point during the panel will you be there? Or the whole thing? Due to some obligations I've got of friends coming in I can probably only catch the tail end of the panel to snag you there.

A proxy might be a good idea to hand out tickets if need be but the problem would then be timing and finding him. While if it were someone like Brad or Tommy, most of us could arrange to meet him somewhere, but for lots of other AMV creators who are not as familiar with the community this would pose a few problems

1. Knowing who to go to
2. Getting information on who to go to since general AX staff would not be able to contact your proxy
3. Timing of meeting the proxy, since the contest often involves a long lineup ahead of time this creates an isue of when the proxy can be ready to handout the other tickets and still get in there himself

BTW Nic, I allready asked Brad but are you coming to the AMV Dinner as well?
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Post by KagatoAMV » Tue May 27, 2008 5:59 pm

The Wired Knight wrote: BTW Nic, I allready asked Brad but are you coming to the AMV Dinner as well?
Yep. Brad says he knows how to get from the hotel to the restaurant, so I'm following him. :)

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Post by Rider4Z » Tue May 27, 2008 6:04 pm

AX 2008 AMV Meet and Greet

if you plan on coming, please P.M. me on the Anime-Expo.org forums and let me know if you are bringing anyone. i would like to let Oiwake know ahead of time how many people plan on being there. if you don't have an account on the forums THEN SHAME ON YOU! GET ONE! or just p.m. me here and i'll add you to the list i have of confirmed comings.

DigitalPanther wrote:Oh and RiderG. I really really liked "Demons and Angels". I think I got what you were goin for with the juxtapositions of the characters use. I don't think the judges got it. You also get bonus points for Gargoyles. ;)
thanks ^_^ yeah i really just intended Demons and Angels to be a fan-based amv. meaning fans of the different series used will get more out of it than someone unfamiliar with them. never saw any awards in the future for this vid, but if it can be shown during the pre-show i think it'd be good to get the audience pumped with ^_~

if you get the chance, i would like to hear your comments on Alchanum. i was pretty confident in that one making it. curious to know why it didn't.

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Post by anneke » Tue May 27, 2008 6:20 pm

Uh, as I said I'm coming from work. I won't be able to stop by the panel or the creator's gathering. I'm going to most likely arrive at the convention at 5pm/6pm.

Previous years I have had to just go to Con-ops to pick up my tickets. Problem was that Con-Ops would be utterly clueless and it would take an hour+ to locate the AMV coordinator and where the tickets were/are. I'm hoping to not have this problem again. I get so sick of having to explain things to staff members when on a tight schedule.

And the 'ticketing' instructions while useful for others, does not cover tickets for AMV creators who get priority/reserve tickets for the AMV contest due to submitting.

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