Anime Classes

Liquid_Polar · Post by **Liquid_Polar** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 9:54 pm

Tried getting my art teacher to put anime as an optional lesson in class, but the shes too stubborn and said no, I was'nt even allowed to do it in free time she insisted my work should be worked on more, I got frustrated with and in the end refused to work...I failed that class and its all the teachers fault -.- Drawing shells and estuaries just is'nt me, and it gets annoying doing something you don't like and are not good at all year, though I could have done maori carving but thats worth less marks and I was'nt interested in that either

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 7:25 am

There's a whole variety of perfectly valid critical approaches you can take on various aspects of anime. Auteur theory and ghibli, mise-en-scene, genre criticism of late 70s sci-fi anime etc etc

You can't tell me that Lacan's Mirror Stage theory isn't prevalent in anime.

Yeah, there's lots of critical potential in the medium if someone cares to look.

TekkaRepliroid Zero · Post by **TekkaRepliroid Zero** » Sun Jan 26, 2003 10:30 pm

I'm not denying your point AD, but I tend to agree with SQ - what are you going to do with such credits in the real world? The technical skills one was all well and good except there's a problem with that one too. History has shown that North American animation productions that are noticeably influenced by anime have not gone over well with people already fans of anime. Many would say that non-japanese shouldn't do anime, but I don't think that need to hold true, but something radical needs to take place in the industry before these kinds of things will hold any real weight, unfortunately.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Mon Jan 27, 2003 4:33 am

You'd get about the same real-world credit as any media-related course.

Zero.

Employers in this particular industry don't employ on academic knowledge, they employ on skills and experience. Any media related qualification is just a hint towards someone's capabilities and the world doesn't work on a system of giving the job to someone who just has the qualification.

The way that I see it is to teach known film theory with a different but valid approach - I don't think anyone presumes it will have benefit to someone who wants to get into the animation industry.

Nappy · Post by **Nappy** » Mon Jan 27, 2003 6:35 am

My school has a entire animation department O_O I think its more geared towards disney though, as its not too far away, but anime is mentioned at least. My roomie is taking a few of them.

Wykith · Post by **Wykith** » Mon Jan 27, 2003 9:37 am

It's a dream come true..........if only I was a little younger when this happened.......and lived in a city near by..........and had the money to go to school..............and.....and........

LittleKefalos · Post by **LittleKefalos** » Mon Jan 27, 2003 12:23 pm

I actually go to NYU.

If this class counts for one of the culture credits I need, I will take it, but if not (most likely true) though it seems fun, it's probably not worth it to take, considering how much college is a year for the average NYU student. It's better to take a class where you can learn things, that you would not be able to learn as easily outside of college (anime you can learn outside of college).

NYU does have an anime club, among others, and our huge library has some anime on catalogue.

I'm studying abroad right now, so I can't really find out specific information, but I do know that second anime course you listed is only for people in one school, and it would be a stretch for anyone else to take it. The first course is pretty much for anyone who wants to as far as I can tell. When I get back next year I may look into it, I'll ask around now, if anyone's interested in knowing more.

At this point though NYU is almost offering a course for everything.
Not really, but you know what I mean 8)

TekkaRepliroid Zero · Post by **TekkaRepliroid Zero** » Mon Jan 27, 2003 7:39 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:You'd get about the same real-world credit as any media-related course.

Zero.

Employers in this particular industry don't employ on academic knowledge, they employ on skills and experience. Any media related qualification is just a hint towards someone's capabilities and the world doesn't work on a system of giving the job to someone who just has the qualification.

The way that I see it is to teach known film theory with a different but valid approach - I don't think anyone presumes it will have benefit to someone who wants to get into the animation industry.

Which is exactly why I think University is a waste of time - all theory, nothing practical. I love being a college student, as I'll actually be wanted afterwards.

skanks · Post by **skanks** » Mon Jan 27, 2003 11:59 pm

Wouldn't mind if my english Lit teacher would of found some decent anime.
Ever had to Read Liddie
So many pages and nothing happens. Dirty lil bitch gets job, her friend gets felt up, she quits... OOOOH TOUCHING
Although, being such a feminist bitch she would have a field day with Love Hina.

But, Anime seems to have alot of pycholigical issues, IE what the characters are thinking, I would find Alot of anime titles alot easier to deconstruct, analise and interpert then Ugly dog gets job.

LittleKefalos · Post by **LittleKefalos** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:23 pm

Well I wouldn't say university's a waste of time. It is what you make of it, nothing more nothing less. It helps if you have good teachers, etc.

I for one feel you should learn from everything. Structured learnign is just one way to learn, some people may think it is less important than others, but this doesn't mean it should be done away with. It does serve a purpose.

The real problem is the cost that American students have to pay to go to school, they really are ridiculous, especially whenn compared to countries that don't charge for tuition.

I think that instead of spending XX $ on weapons for war etc. All they really have to do is cut one large program (like Star Wars, or Stealth fighters, etc.) you take a pick or cut corporate welfare by one fifth and college could be free for all. Do this two or three times (optionally cut corporate welfare by 3/5) and vwalla you have free (or near free) healthcare and school for all. People with extra money can then spend on consumer goods, etc. which would in turn help the economy at the same time as we are educating and taking care of all of our citizens.

I know the solution is not quite that simple (but it's also not that hard) and I know I'm off topic here, but in the end what I'm saying is that for some people university would be not a waste of time, if it wasn't for the money issue.