Is VicBond007's 2004 Guide still relevant?

dust · Post by **dust** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:12 pm

I’m going to make an AMV but it’s been about 8 years since I’ve done so I’ve forgotten how to get footage into Premiere and out again.

Is ‘VicBond007's Guide to Working with DVD Footage’ relevant enough to use as a guide to get me started? Or has software advanced beyond the guide over the last four years?

'Relevant' seems like the wrong word to use, can't think of something better...

dust · Post by **dust** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:15 pm

Forgot to mention, I'll be using Adobe Premiere Pro CS3.

Megamom · Post by **Megamom** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:17 pm

Google! or Amazon!

NS · Post by NS » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:41 pm

Megamom wrote:Google! or Amazon!

that wasn't relevant to anything.

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:52 pm

vicbond's guide will still work, but it is quite dated.
I'd suggest the new eadfag beta

Bauzi · Post by **Bauzi** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:15 pm

@Kariudo:
Wrong link. That´s the one to the beta with the newer/better of technical stuff in amvs:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtechbeta/

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:58 pm

Since it says to do things like edit with DivX clips and we have flashing banners that say to not do that it gives the wrong message at the very least. Perhaps that guide should be retired, especially since the beta guides are more recent and less conflicting.

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:37 pm

vicbond's guide just encodes the vobs to divx avi for storage. It goes on to say you should make clips in vdub and encode them with a lossless codec

xexyzl · Post by **xexyzl** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:40 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:Since it says to do things like edit with DivX clips and we have flashing banners that say to not do that it gives the wrong message at the very least. Perhaps that guide should be retired, especially since the beta guides are more recent and less conflicting.

Check your facts bud:

This next step is a step that very few people do.
In fact, I believe I’m the only person who does it
because it can have a negative effect on quality,
but nobody has ever complained about my video
quality before, and I did win AWA Masters using
this technique. If the Masters judges can’t tell,
the general audience probably can’t either.
What we’re going to do is encode the ENTIRE
DVD to a divx file. Not the poorly compressed
divx fansubs that you might have downloaded
(and edited with, FOR SHAME!) but a rather
high bitrate encoding with minimal loss in
quality

Now, watch closely:

To pull a clip to edit with, seek to the point
where you want your clip to start, and click the
second button from the right at the bottom of the
virtualdub window (if you hold your mouse over
it for a few seconds, a tooltip will let you know
this is for “mark-in”). Now navigate to the end
of your clip, and push the button furthest to the
right to mark out. You should now have 2
(though your clip may be too small to see both)
little black arrows underneath your timeline.
From here, go to video/compression, select
huffyuv, and click OK. There is no need to
change any of the settings. If you’ve added a
filter to a previous clip and haven’t closed
virtualdub in the meantime, go to video/filters
and remove the filters since they stay, even when
you load different video files. Also, make sure
‘no audio’ is ticked in the audio menu.

tl;dr:
While VicBond007 DOES say in his guide to encode your footage to divx, he does not advise at any point to edit with said footage . I myself followed his guide for my first AMV, which while severely lacking in editing skill (as I suck at editing), the video quality was par for the course these days as far as I'm concerned.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:11 pm

you still lose quality doing it that way O: