VirtualDubMod Quality issue with Xvid

If you have questions about compression/encoding/converting look here.
Locked
User avatar
Brittanysama
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:22 am
Location: Florida
Contact:
Org Profile

VirtualDubMod Quality issue with Xvid

Post by Brittanysama » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:52 pm

Okay I am using virtualDubMod version 1.5.10.2 and when ever I put a vid with very good quality through the compression of Xvid it comes out so bad that the text is unreadable.

I am using these filters.
brightness and contrast
deinterlace
temporal smoother(4)

This happens for every vid I put through Virtaldub. Should I try something other then Xvid? I want to compress the file a bit since it's BIG.

User avatar
AaronAMV
eating that e. coli spinach
Joined: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:54 pm
Status: (◔ ◡ ◔ )
Location: (◔ ◡ ◔ )
Org Profile

Re: VirtualDubMod Quality issue with Xvid

Post by AaronAMV » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:15 pm

Go to configure in the XviD window, and make sure that the bar is set to 1, as that's the best settings.
Image

User avatar
SenTrix
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:25 am
Status: Editing
Location: South East England
Org Profile

Re: VirtualDubMod Quality issue with Xvid

Post by SenTrix » Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:51 pm

AaronAMV wrote:Go to configure in the XviD window, and make sure that the bar is set to 1, as that's the best settings.
Don't listen to Aaron.
Brittanysama wrote:Should I try something other then Xvid?
Use an .mp4 container using Zarxgui.
Image <<..:: Click Me ::..>> Image

User avatar
post-it
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2002 5:21 am
Status: Hunting Tanks
Location: Chilliwack - Fishing
Org Profile

Re: VirtualDubMod Quality issue with Xvid

Post by post-it » Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:05 pm

Image

Image

the settings in Xvid are Mpeg-2 setting; use higher bit rates when encoding! 8-)

User avatar
Scintilla
(for EXTREME)
Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:47 pm
Status: Quo
Location: New Jersey
Contact:
Org Profile

Re: VirtualDubMod Quality issue with Xvid

Post by Scintilla » Sat Apr 25, 2009 1:06 pm

Oh god. I just hope somebody out there is deriving some amusement from this thread.

First, @post-it:

1) "CBR" stands for "Chaotic Bad Raptor" "Constant Bit Rate". Get it right.

2) If the bitrate is too low with ANY lossy codec, it'll look like garbage. This is hardly specific to XviD.

3) I'd love to know how constant bit rate works "better" than constant quantizer or 2-pass VBR. Especially for videos that contain both really low-motion scenes and really high-motion ones.


@Brittanysama: if you really want as close to "what you see is what you get" as is possible with XviD, do a "Twopass - 1st pass" run with "Full quality first pass" checked, "Discard first pass" unchecked, and all minimum quantizers set to 2. (You could even do 1, but all reports are that that makes much bigger files without looking noticeably different.)
Actually, come to think of it, single pass with "Target quantizer" set to 1 (which is what I think AaronAMV was suggesting, but he just wasn't very clear about it) might also work, but I've never tried it.

Also, it never hurts to Image so that we can tell you if you have a problem there.

@Sentrix: using an .MP4 container doesn't preclude using XviD; it would have been more accurate to say "use x264 using Zarxgui". (Though using Zarxrax's GUI might, seeing as how it's got "x264" in the name, but I've never seen it, so I don't know.)
ImageImage
:pizza: :pizza: Image :pizza: :pizza:

User avatar
post-it
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2002 5:21 am
Status: Hunting Tanks
Location: Chilliwack - Fishing
Org Profile

Re: VirtualDubMod Quality issue with Xvid

Post by post-it » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:31 am

I have no objections to MP4, I use it myself however -- the settings are the KEY to any codec.

when it comes to encoding .. the video cleaning is most important prep work ( next to editing. )
therefore follow the FAQ's and focus on Cleaning your AMV's before you make them into AVI, MP4
VOB and/or whatever container you end-up using; otherwise your AMV "will-be too big to upload!"

As for VBR Video, a more useless function has never been developed in the history of mankind!

User avatar
LivingFlame
Joined: Sat May 28, 2005 4:41 pm
Location: Closer than you think...
Org Profile

Re: VirtualDubMod Quality issue with Xvid

Post by LivingFlame » Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:25 am

post-it wrote:As for VBR Video, a more useless function has never been developed in the history of mankind!
Because God forbid that a low-motion sequence have a lower bitrate than a high-motion sequence, therefore lowering the file size. :roll:
... yea ...

User avatar
post-it
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2002 5:21 am
Status: Hunting Tanks
Location: Chilliwack - Fishing
Org Profile

Re: VirtualDubMod Quality issue with Xvid

Post by post-it » Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:00 pm

LivingFlame wrote:
post-it wrote:As for VBR Video, a more useless function has never been developed in the history of mankind!
Because God forbid that a low-motion sequence have a lower bitrate than a high-motion sequence, therefore lowering the file size. :roll:
:book: Mpeg standards do allow for such things = true :book:

Locked

Return to “Conversion / Encoding Help”