plugins not being found in vdub OR avsp

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plugins not being found in vdub OR avsp

Post by Overture » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:12 am

k well, my friend is actually the one thats having the problems:( and i worked it though with her step by step and it seems everything was installed correct and everythng is right... but whenever she tries to open an avisynth script in either vdub OR avsp... she keeps getting the same error message, there is no function called..... tho the thing is, she can load avi files with avisource("") just fine. but thats it. whenever she uses directshowsource("") or i even had her install and try ffmpegsource for mkvs etc, it didnt work. same error message. plugin couldnt be found. also filters couldnt be found either like ttempsmooth(), lsfmod() etc.

i had her reinstall avisynth AND the plugins muliple times after wiping her comp clean of it, that didnt help. she only has one avisynth folder with plugins in her programs folder. nothing in her amvapp folder so tis nothing should clash with eachother. and she checked in her plugins folder to see if she had the plugin like directshowsource.dll and it was there. tho it still doesnt find it. says there is no such function called directshowsource. i made sure she typed the script correctly and she did. her location is also correct. she also has the file extension like .avi, .mkv etc. after the name. by the looks of it everything is fineO_O so i dunno wat could be wrong.

everythings installed right, reinstalled everything, scripts right. newest versions. anyone have any suggestions????

btw. shes only trying a simple script. directshowsource, ffmpegsource, or avisource("location")

please help:(

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Re: plugins not being found in vdub OR avsp

Post by mirkosp » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:40 am

If the .ddl and/or .avsi files are properly placed in the plugins directory of avisynth, they should be by all means automatically loaded.
If that however fails, it is possible to load them manually like so:

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loadplugin("C:\your\path\here\plugin.dll")
for dll files, whereas for avsi you would do:

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import("C:\your\path\here\plugin.avsi")
And that would load it properly.

Now the odd thing you're telling me is that directshowsource won't work... directshowsource is an internal filter, so it's really odd if it doesn't work. :shock:
You said that you can load AVI files just fine so perhaps it just means you might lack the directshow codecs to load files through directshowsource. As for ffmpegsource, it does require ffdshow, so perhaps it's a similar issue too. That or it's not autoloading properly, so loading it manually might work.

Waiting for a response, perhaps posting your exact script might help a bit too.
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Re: plugins not being found in vdub OR avsp

Post by Overture » Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:21 am

k well the exact script she sent me that i told her to try is just the one line. ffmpegsource("M:\AnimeCollections\Ga-Rei Zero\[AniYoshi]_Ga-Rei_Zero_-_01_[991B5F05].mkv")
same with directshowsource etc. i even had her try it with colorspace cuz i got desperateO_O converttorgb32() r yv12. tho adding that wont do anything anyways but i was desperateXP

and yes she does have ffmpeg and directshow. tho the thing im worried about(and thanx for reminding me) is that i had her install all the important codecs and stuff seperately, like i had her install, matroska splitter, ffdshow etc. but her comps antivirus wouldnt let her. even if she told it to make an exception and she'd restart her comp she said it wouldnt install. so i had her remove it all and just install cccp to see if at least that would install so she could get ffmpeg and on her comp and it actually did. her virus didnt pick it up. i dont care to have packs like that on my comp but hey, thats all she could do:P so yeah she DOES have it on her comp and i told her to uninstall and rid herself of the previous installs of them so they dont mess with eachother. ill tell her to try out the scripts to load manually like you said. tho as of tomoro shell be gone for a few days till the weekend. so shell try it then.

seems to me like it could obviously only be the codecs arent installed, or somethings clashing with eachother...tho everything sounds like its correctO_O she thinks it could be her comp since its new but i doubt it:P tho i guess anything is possible??? idk-.- any other possible suggestions? if not then ill reply with the results on the weekend and await your response:3 thanx dude!

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Re: plugins not being found in vdub OR avsp

Post by mirkosp » Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:35 am

CCCP is actually fine, you'll hardly need anything extra. It's what should be used on pretty much on any pc for video playback. :P
Also, I think the ffmpegsource might be wrong after all.
That calls the older plugin, so if you got the newer one, you'll have to call it as ffmpegsource2 or ffvideosource. Still doesn't explain why the directshowsource won't work tho...
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Re: plugins not being found in vdub OR avsp

Post by Overture » Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:50 am

mirkosp wrote: Also, I think the ffmpegsource might be wrong after all.
That calls the older plugin, so if you got the newer one, you'll have to call it as ffmpegsource2 or ffvideosource. Still doesn't explain why the directshowsource won't work tho...
hmmm thanx i actually didnt kno bout the ffmpegsource2XD tho one thingO_O i actually got MY and her ffmpeg from a link that scintilla posted in a thread back in january or so. and the regular ffmpegsource worked on MY comp when i tried it out. so i guess a newer version came out sinceXD anyways, yes directshow is still a problem, and not only that, but most other filters she tried too like ttempsmooth(), lsfmod(). i was also wondering, we didnt try directvideo either, tho im assuming its also a directshow filter? so if directshowsource wont work, neither will directvideo right? a lil off topic but wats the difference since ive never used it b4? tho id say idealy we'd want ffmpeg to work at least in the end for frame accuracy of course and so that hopefully she can edit with fake avis.

tho problem still not solved:( ill remember to reply once we try manually loading the plugins this weekend. hope that works:(

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Re: plugins not being found in vdub OR avsp

Post by mirkosp » Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:03 am

I'm not sure if directvideo exists... I know there is dss2. If you meant ffvideosource, it's the same as ffmpegsource2. It can be called in either way.
As for the other plugins, you might want to load manually those too. When a plugin doesn't get recognized, loading it manually is the first thing one would want to try. Actually, some people suggest to autoload only the "loading filters" (dss2, ffvideosource, bassaudiosource, mpeg2source, dgavcsource, whatever else there is...) and manually load anything else. Me being lazy, I don't really care to, tho. If it works, it's fine by me. :P
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Re: plugins not being found in vdub OR avsp

Post by Overture » Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:15 am

k thanx man:3 i remember there was a somethingvideo() but i was too lazy to look wat it was and stuff:P anyways we'll try to manually load them. thanx :mrgreen:

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Re: plugins not being found in vdub OR avsp

Post by Qyot27 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:18 pm

FFmpegSource (1.21 nor the 2.0 branch) does not require any underlying install of ffmpeg or ffdshow. It's already in the plugin itself. FFmpegSource2 and FFVideoSource are both derived from the same plugin, the difference being that FFVideoSource is the 'real' function call, and doesn't support loading audio (which is what FFAudioSource is for), and FFmpegSource2 is just a wrapping function that allows users more used to the original FFmpegSource's syntax and operation to use the 2.00 versions comfortably (and FFmpegSource2 supports the atrack parameter, so video and audio will both load).

For absolute certainty here, though, the two packages you need for FFmpegSource are:
FFmpegSource2 v2.12 or FFMS2 rev234 (if you want the latest; the changelog for FFMS2 refers to a v2.13, but there is none in the file list, only this build which is newer than 2.12) - you want only one of these, not both
FFmpegSource v1.21 - the original version; it and 2.12 (or r234, if you prefer) coexist peacefully and don't conflict with each other. It's useful to have, whether you use it frequently or not - there may be rare cases where full audio caching and calling is beneficial to what you're doing, and 2.00 no longer does this.

You said the computer was new, and that there was an interfering antivirus program. One thing I can think of that could cause this are registry issues - namely, that something (like maybe said antivirus) is causing the plugin folder's location to not be written to the registry, which in turn will break autoloading.
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Re: plugins not being found in vdub OR avsp

Post by Qyot27 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:20 pm

Qyot27 wrote:You said the computer was new, and that there was an interfering antivirus program. One thing I can think of that could cause this are registry issues - namely, that something (like maybe said antivirus) is causing the plugin folder's location to not be written to the registry, which in turn will break autoloading.
Also, if the computer is running Windows 7, there have been conflicting reports about AviSynth working for some people and not working for others. I've not read enough into the issue to know what the real underlying problem is, but it might help to look for solutions of that nature if that's what you think you're running into.
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Re: plugins not being found in vdub OR avsp

Post by Overture » Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:33 am

thanx!!:3 tho i never needed the audio from my sources its definitely gonna be good to knoXD and i really do hope that that antivirus is the problem, cuz that would mean we've solved the problemXDDD will post results this weekend wen we try manually loading the plugins. i hope its NOT a windows 7 problem thoO_O cuz if it is then id have no idea wats wrong-.- thanx tho. much appreciated

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