What do you value higher?

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Re: What do you value higher?

Post by Ikore » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:41 pm

Dr.Dinosaur wrote:the one that has the music or anime that I like.

(let's be honest)
I like Naruto and Skillet and most of the amv made with them sucks :|
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Re: What do you value higher?

Post by Fall_Child42 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:51 pm

Ikore wrote:
Dr.Dinosaur wrote:the one that has the music or anime that I like.

(let's be honest)
I like Naruto and Skillet and most of the amv made with them sucks :|
did you miss the "comparable quality" qualifier?
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Re: What do you value higher?

Post by JaddziaDax » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:52 pm

Originality doesn't matter to me as long as I enjoy the video :P

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Re: What do you value higher?

Post by Ikore » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:05 pm

Dr.Dinosaur wrote: did you miss the "comparable quality" qualifier?
:mrgreen: yeah I misconcepted the idea, sorry about that :sweat: but what about both of them using same anime and song? I think originality is irreplaceable.
JaddziaDax wrote:Originality doesn't matter to me as long as I enjoy the video :P
I used to think that, until I get tired of watching the same thing over and over again :|
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Re: What do you value higher?

Post by CayenneFashionista » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:07 pm

but is it boring?

I'd like to point out that the first thirty seconds of this video are very nice.


strange music for the source
unusual editing style complete with visual puns
dramatic atmosphere for a section of the show that is inconsequential and unimportant to the larger narrative.


I think it would be nice to see people abandon the storyline of the animes. Create videos from the ground up that only rely on the source for thematic content that is immediately present in the clip.

so, we should stop making amvs that are attached to anime fandom.

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Re: What do you value higher?

Post by CodeZTM » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:15 pm

I'd prefer something unique over something rare, but if the rare story is unique in that it hasn't been seen often, but still only average, then it's toss up.

Kind of like..

Video A = Naruto + Action Music + Unique story/characterizations
Video B = [Unpronounceable Japanese title without Americanized name here] + Average storytelling + new type of storytelling/unique

Then it's a toss up.

But if the question is "would I like an anime better just because the anime is obscure?", then my answer would be a definitive "No". I judge/review/enjoy videos that I personally find superior based upon the qualities of the AMV, and not the sources that are used.

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Re: What do you value higher?

Post by pink haze » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:41 pm

I assume here that the two videos are comparable in every way besides those two points. As in, their anime & song choice, genre, aesthetics, technical aspects, etc. are otherwise similar or equal to me personally, so that I will not be biased by these things. In that case...

I'd choose #1. If a video makes an overused source look new and original, then for me it's taken away the primary downside of overused sources--that is, the predictability, the lack of surprise. I like videos that stray from the original storyline or meaning of the anime or music, so I'd prefer #1 to #2.


However!
What if both videos had a very new & original story/plot/atmosphere and the only difference at all was the popularity of their sources? That'd be a tough choice to make.

I love seeing overused sources presented in unique ways--it can be quite a feat, coming up with new editing techniques, mixing up the clip selection, etc.
At the same time, underused sources are often underused because they're difficult to work with, or because they're just terrible and no one likes them and it's hard to make them look good. Making something entertaining out of those can be quite a feat too.

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Re: What do you value higher?

Post by LittleAtari » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:23 pm

Niotex wrote:The better video.
x2


People need to get over the set stereotypes they have for different types of videos and just watch the freakin video in front of them. Is it good? Great! Is it bad? alright, then move on. Don't get hung up on certain things or a particular path that videos have to be or shouldnt be because most of the time, you're overlooking a million other aspects about said video.

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Re: What do you value higher?

Post by 8bit_samurai » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:18 pm

I don't see any stereotypes Nya has provided. It seems to me she's just asking whether we'd rather watch a new concept AMV or a new source AMV. I assume people who are saying they'd rather watch the better video doesn't care for neither concept or source, as I don't really care for neither as well. I'd probably favor the one with the more catchier tune.
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Re: What do you value higher?

Post by Qyot27 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:40 pm

I weigh it against several factors. Do I like the anime (or think I might)? Do I like the music (or think I might)? Do I like the editor's previous work (or are willing to see based on other users' responses)?

It also swings the other way - there are some sources that I really don't have the desire to watch any more videos of. Like ef. It doesn't matter to me if there's a novel technique involved, if I'm personally sick of seeing a source used, I'm incredibly reluctant to watch a video using it. Same goes for music that has the same effect. Or the styles of certain editors that I'm kind of 'meh' about. The only thing that can counteract those factors is a convincing enough argument from others whose opinions I respect.

With new sources and lesser-used music it relies more on what I might surmise about the video and sources used, and what I know of the editor. There is also a certain novelty factor involved, but scenario #2 is much more ambiguous than the issue of an overused source. That isn't to say I avoid overused sources, it's more precisely that I tend to avoid sources I just don't like seeing anymore. And my personal source likes/dislikes aren't really affect by how 'overused' they are. If I don't like it, it doesn't take very many times for it to be 'overused' to me.
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