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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest Finalists List

Post by DigitalPanther » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:26 am

Radical_Yue wrote:
DigitalPanther wrote: “Dial ‘D’ For Dominus” by Solomon Smith
While it's a really neat video
Official AX Rules wrote: A parody video is a video in which editing has been used to create something other then a music video, and the music involved acts only as a soundtrack or background element. Videos of this nature can look like music videos, such as Commercials, Trailers, opening/closing themes to TV shows, and more, but they focus on subjects other then the music and video relationship. Videos found to be edited in this format and not submitted to the “Fun” category will either not be accepted into the Anime Expo® Anime Music Video Contest or be re-categorized and moved into the “Fun” category at the discretion of the Special Judges in consultation with the Anime Expo® Anime Music Video Contest Directors. Any decisions by this body to re-categorize a video in this manner are final and not guaranteed. So if you want so submit a parody or original concept video to the contest, we strongly suggest you submit it to the “Fun” category. That’s what it is there for.
I mean, how does this video:



Majorly differ from the Big O video?

I'm really not trying to be a bitch, both videos are of great quality....but...Kevin got disqualified, and yet this video gets in with the same rule in place?
I'm not trying to get him DQ'd I'm just trying to point out the lack of categorization by judges and coordinators.

Not cool guys. :?
"I'm really not trying to be a bitch"[But]...you know anytime someone starts a sentence like that that means they actually are right?

The "Dial D" question was brought up at the judging. Put to the judges, they voted to keep it in the category it was entered in. That coupled with the previous cries of "Now they have a category to move a video they don't want to win best of show to." may have had some influence but I can't be sure.

Also, the year wedding rings was submitted was well before I was running the contest so I had nothing to do with that. I was not even involved in the contest at that time beyond pressing play on the dvd player.

In regards to Incepolis, please look at the video before you point fingers. Its an AMV in the traditional sense of the word. so yes. You are stirring things up needlessly in this case.

I'm just sayin...
-DP
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Nikki and I have already been discussing the idea for scrapping the rules entirely and re-writing them from the ground up. There are alot of , what I consider, unnecessary rules and specifications from a time when linear tape was more the standard than digital submissions. The rules were written while the Dodd's ran the contest. We have tried to adjust to fit the changing time and technologies. It has gotten to the point where the rules just need to be scrapped and totally rewritten. So, we are very seriously considering doing just that.
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest Finalists List

Post by Castor Troy » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:29 am

Kisanzi wrote:On other topics, grats to all of the finalists and go Castor, how long of an AX drought has this snapped and now you get 2 finalists?!
I didn't enter. Ryan Molina did. :ying:
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Yeah, it feels great to finally comeback after 5 years :up:
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest Finalists List

Post by Radical_Yue » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:33 am

DigitalPanther wrote:
Radical_Yue wrote:
DigitalPanther wrote: “Dial ‘D’ For Dominus” by Solomon Smith
While it's a really neat video
Official AX Rules wrote: A parody video is a video in which editing has been used to create something other then a music video, and the music involved acts only as a soundtrack or background element. Videos of this nature can look like music videos, such as Commercials, Trailers, opening/closing themes to TV shows, and more, but they focus on subjects other then the music and video relationship. Videos found to be edited in this format and not submitted to the “Fun” category will either not be accepted into the Anime Expo® Anime Music Video Contest or be re-categorized and moved into the “Fun” category at the discretion of the Special Judges in consultation with the Anime Expo® Anime Music Video Contest Directors. Any decisions by this body to re-categorize a video in this manner are final and not guaranteed. So if you want so submit a parody or original concept video to the contest, we strongly suggest you submit it to the “Fun” category. That’s what it is there for.
I mean, how does this video:



Majorly differ from the Big O video?

I'm really not trying to be a bitch, both videos are of great quality....but...Kevin got disqualified, and yet this video gets in with the same rule in place?
I'm not trying to get him DQ'd I'm just trying to point out the lack of categorization by judges and coordinators.

Not cool guys. :?
"I'm really not trying to be a bitch"[But]...you know anytime someone starts a sentence like that that means they actually are right?

The "Dial D" question was brought up at the judging. Put to the judges, they voted to keep it in the category it was entered in. That coupled with the previous cries of "Now they have a category to move a video they don't want to win best of show to." may have had some influence but I can't be sure.

Also, the year wedding rings was submitted was well before I was running the contest so I had nothing to do with that. I was not even involved in the contest at that time beyond pressing play on the dvd player.

In regards to Incepolis, please look at the video before you point fingers. Its an AMV in the traditional sense of the word. so yes. You are stirring things up needlessly in this case.

I'm just sayin...
-DP
Once more, it honestly wasn't meant to be mean. I threw the bitch thing in because quite a few people see me as one and I don't really appreciate your remark concerning it.


Now, while you're not the people that ran the contest 5 years ago, you did take over their rules.
It's a neat, stylish video and I actually enjoyed it (I'm a major Big O nerd) but you need to amend the rules so you don't break them. It just looks really bad on your part.

Now, if I wanted to stir something up I could say that this is considered pro?

I'm not trying to stir up shit. I could, but I'm not.

It would help you guys save face >.>

THIS IS ME TRYING TO BE HELPFUL.

Like I said, it's a good video and I don't want it DQ'd. It's just in the wrong category.


EDIT: Now that I see your Ps you added on, what Kisanzi said + what I said :P
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest Finalists List

Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:33 am

Castor Troy wrote:
Kisanzi wrote:On other topics, grats to all of the finalists and go Castor, how long of an AX drought has this snapped and now you get 2 finalists?!
I didn't enter. Ryan Molina did. :ying:
Spoiler :
Yeah, it feels great to finally comeback after 5 years :up:
You've got to win to mount a comeback my young Jr Jedi :P

Awe... I can't argue that it's kind of tempting to be present at the contest this year...

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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest Finalists List

Post by DigitalPanther » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:36 am

Castor Troy wrote:
Kisanzi wrote:On other topics, grats to all of the finalists and go Castor, how long of an AX drought has this snapped and now you get 2 finalists?!
I didn't enter. Ryan Molina did. :ying:
Spoiler :
Yeah, it feels great to finally comeback after 5 years :up:
LOL yeah I had to go back and look at your form as well. You have Ryan Molina in the section of how you want your name listed...that's why it is listed that way. I thought maybe you had an extended dyslexia.
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest Finalists List

Post by Kisanzi » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:39 am

DigitalPanther wrote:P.S.
Nikki and I have already been discussing the idea for scrapping the rules entirely and re-writing them from the ground up. There are alot of , what I consider, unnecessary rules and specifications from a time when linear tape was more the standard than digital submissions. The rules were written while the Dodd's ran the contest. We have tried to adjust to fit the changing time and technologies. It has gotten to the point where the rules just need to be scrapped and totally rewritten. So, we are very seriously considering doing just that.
Thank you DP for acknowledging this. I've been attending AX for almost the past decade and under your supervision the event has flowed the smoothest it ever has. The only reason these small hiccups keep happening is because there is still some remnants of the last coordinators still showing up in the rules and such. I appreciate that you acknowledge this small issue and are going to remedy it. I know you're not running the contest the same way as the past coordinators did, but you have to make sure you rid the contest of all of their influence (i.e. the rules) if you want people to stop bringing up the past.

Thanks for all that you do and looking forward to watching great contest at the con again this year.

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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest Finalists List

Post by DigitalPanther » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:43 am

Radical_Yue wrote:
Now, if I wanted to stir something up I could say that this is considered pro?

I'm not trying to stir up shit. I could, but I'm not.

It would help you guys save face >.>

THIS IS ME TRYING TO BE HELPFUL.

Like I said, it's a good video and I don't want it DQ'd. It's just in the wrong category.
It is not my job to look at a video as someone enters it and say " Oh hey whoa there cochise...you don't have enough effects to enter this here AMTV-Pro category." That would be me exerting my opinion and bias into the contest. I very deliberately keep my fingers out of that pie in all but the most extreme of circumstances to prevent becoming that which I despise (the previous contest directors whom I relieved).

The calling video you refer to is a good video. Is it Pro? That's not for >ME< to decide. The editor entered it there. There were one or two that I looked at and thought "Ummm yeah why is this here?" but if someone thinks their video is "pro" and they want to enter then they are welcome to do so. It will be and is judged accordingly.

-DP

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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest Finalists List

Post by Radical_Yue » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:47 am

DigitalPanther wrote:
Radical_Yue wrote:
Now, if I wanted to stir something up I could say that this is considered pro?

I'm not trying to stir up shit. I could, but I'm not.

It would help you guys save face >.>

THIS IS ME TRYING TO BE HELPFUL.

Like I said, it's a good video and I don't want it DQ'd. It's just in the wrong category.
It is not my job to look at a video as someone enters it and say " Oh hey whoa there cochise...you don't have enough effects to enter this here AMTV-Pro category." That would be me exerting my opinion and bias into the contest. I very deliberately keep my fingers out of that pie in all but the most extreme of circumstances to prevent becoming that which I despise (the previous contest directors whom I relieved).

The calling video you refer to is a good video. Is it Pro? That's not for >ME< to decide. The editor entered it there. There were one or two that I looked at and thought "Ummm yeah why is this here?" but if someone thinks their video is "pro" and they want to enter then they are welcome to do so. It will be and is judged accordingly.

-DP
.......


Like I said, I'm not trying to stir up shit. I was just making an example of what trying to stir up shit would look like.....

I'm ready to bash my head through a wall at this point..but then again, that would obviously be very welcome to quite a few people :/

Thanks.
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest Finalists List

Post by Castor Troy » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:51 am

DigitalPanther wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:
Kisanzi wrote:On other topics, grats to all of the finalists and go Castor, how long of an AX drought has this snapped and now you get 2 finalists?!
I didn't enter. Ryan Molina did. :ying:
Spoiler :
Yeah, it feels great to finally comeback after 5 years :up:
LOL yeah I had to go back and look at your form as well. You have Ryan Molina in the section of how you want your name listed...that's why it is listed that way. I thought maybe you had an extended dyslexia.
-DP
I would like to start being more known by my real name and I'm gonna be dropping the "Castor Troy" nick for future videos. I'm still gonna keep it here and some other places since I've used it for so long. You can still call me either name.
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Awe... I can't argue that it's kind of tempting to be present at the contest this year...

Vlad


See you at the dinner, Vlad. :P
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest Finalists List

Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:52 am

DigitalPanther wrote: It is not my job to look at a video as someone enters it and say " Oh hey whoa there cochise...you don't have enough effects to enter this here AMTV-Pro category." That would be me exerting my opinion and bias into the contest. I very deliberately keep my fingers out of that pie in all but the most extreme of circumstances to prevent becoming that which I despise (the previous contest directors whom I relieved).

The calling video you refer to is a good video. Is it Pro? That's not for >ME< to decide. The editor entered it there. There were one or two that I looked at and thought "Ummm yeah why is this here?" but if someone thinks their video is "pro" and they want to enter then they are welcome to do so. It will be and is judged accordingly.

-DP
Don't you love running the contest sometimes. I know the feeling as in the contests that I've run/ran there were constant arguments about videos in the wrong categories... The traditional categories tent to be so subjective and I’ve been working on ways to get away from them myself.

Ultimately though at AX and other cons, the audience decides the winners and it’s really up to what is liked the most in many cases rather then the emphasis on what fits where the best
Castor Troy wrote:See you at the dinner, Vlad. :P
HAHAHA... Just for kicks I looked into it.. Lets see, two days off work, about $1500 in hotel, flight and food for the time there and then there is only the contest and a hand full of AMV related stuff to do (not intrested in a lot of anything else there)... Conclusion.. What do you think :wink:

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