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Re: I just have to know...

Post by JaddziaDax » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:12 pm

Because we have nothing else to talk about aside from griping about those who can't take criticism, constructive or otherwise.

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Re: I just have to know...

Post by gotegenks » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:12 pm

What I wanna know is why this thread is already FIVE pages long.
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Re: I just have to know...

Post by Enigma » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:14 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:Because we have nothing else to talk about aside from griping about those who can't take criticism, constructive or otherwise.
That's more so been the deal in this and many other communities since..ever

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Re: I just have to know...

Post by Leader Desslock » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:51 pm

It would be far longer, had Tailmon (a sock puppet of a terrible writer, ex-mod and bitter old hagtroll on AN) not prudently opted to stop trolling me here. Her nonsensical ramblings are easy enough to deflect, but she does tend to increase the page count when she decides to go off on a tear.

I had expected more people to pick apart the parody of The Grinch to which I linked earlier (page 2?), simply because my harsh critical stance on AMVs has begged for karmic retribution. I don't care one way or the other - I'm personally happy with the way the piece came out, and that's all that matters to me. I enjoyed writing it; I don't care if anyone reads it, although I do enjoy sharing it with the folks I know will get a kick out of it.

Ah, well. This thread has served its purpose for me (in conjunction with the subsequent response on AN), so I'm happy.

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Re: I just have to know...

Post by TEKnician » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:08 am

Leader Desslock wrote:I don't care one way or the other...I don't care if anyone reads it
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Almost as hard as fighting a Holy Paladin.

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Re: I just have to know...

Post by Leader Desslock » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:55 am

^ Nah, I just tossed it out there in order to shut down the "oh, sure you can GIVE criticism, but you couldn't TAKE it" argument.

I write a lot, but I think that's the only thing I ever posted at AN.

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Re: I just have to know...

Post by Tailmon » Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:45 am

Leader Desslock wrote:It would be far longer, had Tailmon (a sock puppet of a terrible writer, ex-mod and bitter old hagtroll on AN) not prudently opted to stop trolling me here. Her nonsensical ramblings are easy enough to deflect, but she does tend to increase the page count when she decides to go off on a tear.

I had expected more people to pick apart the parody of The Grinch to which I linked earlier (page 2?), simply because my harsh critical stance on AMVs has begged for karmic retribution. I don't care one way or the other - I'm personally happy with the way the piece came out, and that's all that matters to me. I enjoyed writing it; I don't care if anyone reads it, although I do enjoy sharing it with the folks I know will get a kick out of it.

Ah, well. This thread has served its purpose for me (in conjunction with the subsequent response on AN), so I'm happy.

It's the other way if you ask me. I hope you got your jollies and now consider yourself far superior to others as usual/
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Re: I just have to know...

Post by EvaFan » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:34 am

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"The people cannot be [...] always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to [...] the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to public liberty. What country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned [...] that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: I just have to know...

Post by Leader Desslock » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:38 pm

Here's a question for the group, based on a tangent thread over on AN:

Do you think that a critic needs to be able to work in the medium personally, in order to give constructive critical feedback of the work? Or do you think that it's possible for a critic to give constructive feedback simply by pointing out what he thinks is good or bad, and supporting his opinion with examples and sound argument?

On of my fellow writers on AN (and IMHO, our best artist) mentioned that one of the reasons AMV creators on AN might not be too receptive to my critical comments is that I personally lack the credibility to critique their work, not having made an AMV myself. I disagreed with this analysis, for several reasons. Several other creative types on AN (one of whom used to make AMVs) also disagreed. In keeping with this thread's tradition of sharing interesting points back and forth, I figured I'd toss it over here.

Do you think that you have to make AMVs to effectively criticize them? Why or why not?

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Re: I just have to know...

Post by BasharOfTheAges » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:20 am

I wouldn't say you have to have made one, but it certainly enhances your credibility. Sufficient academic (or, even better, professional) knowledge of the constitute parts of the hobby also helps. Having neither is problematic. Part of knowing what the fuck you're talking about is actually knowing what the fuck you're talking about after all. Quite a large part, in fact.
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