There were other questions pointed at coordinators, so I chose to answer those questions from a coordinator standpoint. Now thanks for making me ruin the surprise.gote wrote:at the same time this isn't a test, and hearing more about the entire process, from coordinating to judging would be very nice. this article's purpose was to inform editors on what to do to give their amvs the best chance of winning (or at least that's what i was thinking when i made the the panel suggestion)ngsilver wrote:my statement was entirely centered around how I personally judge a contest and has nothing to do with how as a coordinator I choose to have my contest judged. I've judged many contests that I don't run and I took the question to be as a judge not as a coordinator selecting a group of judges for my own contest.BasharOfTheAges wrote:Your "afterthoughts" segment is from last time.
EDIT - Wanted to add that I was kinda surprised to see that I'm the only one that screens in an impartial group by the way the comments sound.
If you look at the question it states how as a judge you judge a contest. Not as a coordinator how you set a group or handle such things.
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I can see where a bit of the coordinator hat may have slipped on there, but I was answering it more from a "one of many judges" perspective, where I felt the most important thing to stress was that my individual opinions and metrics actually didn't matter much to judging the contest as a whole (because of the fact there are so many others involved with differing viewpoints). When I put on my judges hat, I don't feel like I have the authority to look at what I'm doing as being the singular choice being made. The point of view and tone of the other replies suggested more "decision by fiat" than "just another cog in the machine" to me. Maybe I'm being a bit too fatalistic in how I see my role in the process.ngsilver wrote:my statement was entirely centered around how I personally judge a contest and has nothing to do with how as a coordinator I choose to have my contest judged. I've judged many contests that I don't run and I took the question to be as a judge not as a coordinator selecting a group of judges for my own contest.BasharOfTheAges wrote:Your "afterthoughts" segment is from last time.
EDIT - Wanted to add that I was kinda surprised to see that I'm the only one that screens in an impartial group by the way the comments sound.
If you look at the question it states how as a judge you judge a contest. Not as a coordinator how you set a group or handle such things.
Also kinda figured (and seemingly rightly so by the other replies so far) that I was answering the real question people would take out of this of "how do I get into a contest if you're judging it."

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That's easy and isn't really a secret, at least if it's the con I'm running. Submit your video + follow the rules = you're in. I can't really answer for other contests I'd be judging in as other judges use different metrics and other cons require different points for you to look at, so what videos would get in under those circumstances I can't attest to. That's mainly why I stuck with how I personally view a video when judging.BasharOfTheAges wrote:Also kinda figured (and seemingly rightly so by the other replies so far) that I was answering the real question people would take out of this of "how do I get into a contest if you're judging it."
What I'm getting at here is... it's really just a crap shoot

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ROFL, I seriously just made an amv with that exact plot. I suspect NG to be clairvoyant.Though perhaps the most important thing for a creator to know is what makes their videos stand out the most. That for me as a judge or pre-screener is a video's concept/idea and how original it is to videos I've seen before and compared to the other videos in the contest/category. Romance is a good category to use as an example. Out of 10 videos in the romance category that I may have seen, 8 of them are your standard girl/guy love song and often depict scenes of them being together. The other 2 depict a romantic relationship in a different light, say 1 is about a stalker and the other is about a girl who gets used by a guy and in the end kills him. Taking into account all 10 videos the other 2 that took a different look into the romantic story would stand out and often be rated higher then the rest because of it.
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Interesting read.
I'll like to mention certain points about being contest judge:
At my country I have been selected to be judge all the last year. It's interesting that nobody here wants to be judge since that guy has the responsability to bring good choices according to the quality of the amv contest. But here we don't have Judge choice award, different to North Americans contests. Neither we don;t have awards for every category. There's only one category which is Best of Show.
The amv contests are very small: Just like 3 or 5 clips, and that's all the amv contest. While I have been looking the way to make people get interested in amv making (Seriously crowd, here are several editors I would like to see editing amvs one day) seems that will not happen soon, even when I decided to broadcast also amvs from the org, just to make things a little funnier.
But returning to the topic:
At my case, being a contest judge is very different to be a betatester. As a tester, I'm obligated to say which facts should be changed for a better looking. As a judge, I have to see how the audience reacts to the amv, and also, the technical aspect of the amv (Which means: the amv does justice to the basis of amv making, no matter how experienced the author is).
I had the situation in one contest, where I had my choice but the audience prefered an amv that was technically bad. They almost kill me because I didn't choose their option, but explained myself why. They first thought that I was being selfish, but no, my tastes doesn't have anything to do when choosing a Best in Show.
But the lack of judges here kinda bug me, cause I seriously need vacations
I'll like to mention certain points about being contest judge:
At my country I have been selected to be judge all the last year. It's interesting that nobody here wants to be judge since that guy has the responsability to bring good choices according to the quality of the amv contest. But here we don't have Judge choice award, different to North Americans contests. Neither we don;t have awards for every category. There's only one category which is Best of Show.
The amv contests are very small: Just like 3 or 5 clips, and that's all the amv contest. While I have been looking the way to make people get interested in amv making (Seriously crowd, here are several editors I would like to see editing amvs one day) seems that will not happen soon, even when I decided to broadcast also amvs from the org, just to make things a little funnier.
But returning to the topic:
At my case, being a contest judge is very different to be a betatester. As a tester, I'm obligated to say which facts should be changed for a better looking. As a judge, I have to see how the audience reacts to the amv, and also, the technical aspect of the amv (Which means: the amv does justice to the basis of amv making, no matter how experienced the author is).
I had the situation in one contest, where I had my choice but the audience prefered an amv that was technically bad. They almost kill me because I didn't choose their option, but explained myself why. They first thought that I was being selfish, but no, my tastes doesn't have anything to do when choosing a Best in Show.
But the lack of judges here kinda bug me, cause I seriously need vacations

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