The Lip Flapper : Volume 34 - TritioAFB

[Rider4Z]

Great interview, except...

-As an advice from Yue, My participations at AMV Contest as contestant will be reduced next year.

Being a veteran of many conventions' AMV events and contests, this sounds like rather bad advice to me. You (and every creator) should make the effort to get your video out to the masses in various parts of the world. Contrary to what's been said, it's not "trolling", it's getting videos out to the various audiences of the conventions. This is truly the only reason why there are AMV events in the first place -- we are all doing it for the enjoyment of the audience and the expansion of the fan base for the art form. Don't ever forget that.

i'm with GQ on this one. if it's not against the rules, it's fair game. and if it's not in the rules, then there isn't a demand for it. a lot of people seem to have a different opinion about what trolling is. in my opinion, sending a video to several different conventions and being repeatedly rewarded for their efforts by receiving awards and downloads should be something to be proud of. Nobody sends in an entry with the mindset that they're going to take every category and not let anyone else have a chance to win. the majority i've seen is people reacting with shock and gratitude over their winnings. it's kinda like a new parent bouncing around showing pictures of his kid. yeah people might get annoyed seeing the same photo after a while but who cares what they think? if you're passionate about something then don't let the negativity of others bring you down.

granted, if i have a video that tends to continuously win, i will retire it sooner than others. however that is mostly only because of the whining i've learned tends to follow a successful AMV. i've yet to see any complaints towards an amv that makes several rounds but doesn't win much.


but anyway, this was a great read, Tritio! i give you props for your job, wow. oh, and you at some point have finally watched dragonball z, right?....

[Kionon]

Nobody sends in an entry with the mindset that they're going to take every category and not let anyone else have a chance to win. the majority i've seen is people reacting with shock and gratitude over their winnings.

I haven't recently, but in the past, I did indeed know of editors who hit upon some magic formula and started sending out the winning video to more and more conventions in order to maximise winnings. Admittedly, those individuals have disappeared. They didn't seem capable of continuing to put out winning videos, or they took all of their single video spoils and quit the hobby. But I am certainly capable of saying I have indeed met editors who did send in an entry to multiple cons, usually smaller, not as well known cons, with the intention to WIN ALL THE AWARDS (or at least, win one award per contest submitted to, and they submitted to like every small con ever). I find that terribly bad sportsmanship.

[Radical_Yue]

Nobody sends in an entry with the mindset that they're going to take every category and not let anyone else have a chance to win. the majority i've seen is people reacting with shock and gratitude over their winnings.

I haven't recently, but in the past, I did indeed know of editors who hit upon some magic formula and started sending out the winning video to more and more conventions in order to maximise winnings. Admittedly, those individuals have disappeared. They didn't seem capable of continuing to put out winning videos, or they took all of their single video spoils and quit the hobby. But I am certainly capable of saying I have indeed met editors who did send in an entry to multiple cons, usually smaller, not as well known cons, with the intention to WIN ALL THE AWARDS (or at least, win one award per contest submitted to, and they submitted to like every small con ever). I find that terribly bad sportsmanship.

I'd have to say that there are people out there who actually send videos to strategically win categories and such. They made not be vocal on the forums, but sadly I have seen them discuss it and it makes me sad.

Not many people are going to post their "I'll win all the awards because everyone else sucks" in public on the forums, but from what I've seen in private that ideal is still going waaaaay too strong with waaay too many. That is one thing that really makes me hate those that troll.

I'm sorry but I will never see the appeal in having every single contest identical with the same videos. I've heard more negative impacts on the crowd than I have positive, at least from those who actually care about AMVs and aren't just there to see Naruto dance to Lady Gaga and lol.

[MimS]

Videos spamming convention are a real issue. That's the reason why Japan Expo became an exclusive contest, it really was annoying to see the winner of Big Contest winning the contest particularly knowing our audience ain't an inexpert on the subject not considering the community, we have a lot of people who watch AMVs without participating in the community as viewers and/or editors and they got bored of watching the current famous vids on big screen, there's no interest in it and if they lose interest, they'll just leave and no more audience...

Though, basically, I can understand that people send a video for different contests, I mean, to send a video to AWA and another to JE/BC ain't a problem, it's not like editor/non-editor audience was a same. I always discover winners of AWA/Connichi(/any contest that ain't french or russian actually XD) on org once results are already revealed so well... these people, at least, increase the number of entries in contest and it's still a good thing

[BasharOfTheAges]

Last time I checked, I wasn't doing it for the audience at all. I do it for myself. Which I believe is one of the top reasons people edit. We're not trying to please anyone but ourselves. Yes, it's lovely to see the artform grow, but making 1 video a year and sending it everywhere is a horrible example.

I think your personal notions are biasing your views of the subject quite a bit. I edit to entertain people. I know a lot of people that edit to entertain people. I also run an AMV room to entertain people and I run a contest to entertain people. I really like entertaining people, so I can sympathize with people who really do want to entertain people, especially when they give me great videos to entertain people with - as when I put on a show, entertaining that crowd with my contest is my number one job. I want to put on a good show. My con chair wants to put on a good show. We spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars on trophies and are given hundreds in prize support to incentivize people to make the show much better than one would expect for its size.

On the flip side, I also hate people that can't learn self restraint and don't know when to say when without having to be forced to by a rule book. I feel they lack empathy and common sense. I also also know that the vast majority of con-goers don't visit more than one con a year, and the ones that do tend to stick to their geographical area.

Now this is getting way off topic. People need to talk about the damned interview and how awesome Dr. AMV is.

[Kionon]

I'd have to say that there are people out there who actually send videos to strategically win categories and such. They made not be vocal on the forums, but sadly I have seen them discuss it and it makes me sad.

Not many people are going to post their "I'll win all the awards because everyone else sucks" in public on the forums, but from what I've seen in private that ideal is still going waaaaay too strong with waaay too many. That is one thing that really makes me hate those that troll.

I'm sorry but I will never see the appeal in having every single contest identical with the same videos. I've heard more negative impacts on the crowd than I have positive, at least from those who actually care about AMVs and aren't just there to see Naruto dance to Lady Gaga and lol.

It's disappointing to see that this hasn't changed, it's just gone a bit more "underground." For what it's worth, this matches my own previous experiences and is why I have to break with my studiomate and agree with you here, Yue. I also prefer contests to be their own individual events and dislike the idea of every contest being the same or nearly so.

[TritioAFB]

Now this is getting way off topic

The spam is part of the interview. Wherever I go, spam is following me

Besides, I like discussions

[Rider4Z]

that's a bummer there are people who intentionally troll i just think we should be careful about who we accuse of doing it on purpose. s'not like we know what's in their heads. happy thoughts. happy thoughts

[Kionon]

Rider, I think Yue and I are both speaking about individuals who have admitted to this, either directly to us, or when we were in ear shot. Yue can speak for herself, but I was certainly referring to individuals I knew were trolling, not just individuals I thought might be trolling.

[Rider4Z]

that's good. but just to be clear that was just a general statement not directed at anybody specifically sorry if it sounded like i directed it at you.