Editing is a slow process these days....

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Editing is a slow process these days....

Post by Gene Starwind 21122 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:32 pm

Is editing a slow process for the other editors out there these days. By the time I rip my DVD footage it takes about 30-40 minutes. Blu-Ray for one episode takes about that long. Then putting it through AVSPmod cleaning up the footage, then going through Virtual dub. Depending on the length of your clip it could take anywhere from 5 minutes up to 20 minutes (for a 5 minute clip). After that putting it through Zarzaxgui which takes another 5-20 minutes. So by the time your footage is ready it's about an hour before you can bring it into Vegas.

Is this about right? Yesterday I only completed 12 seconds of my new AMV and it took me about 7 hours. (Including the time search for the right clip)

Seems like a lot longer process compared to editing with AVS scripts back in Adobe Premiere 6.0, 7 years ago.
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Re: Editing is a slow process these days....

Post by BasharOfTheAges » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:20 pm

Most of my stuff that actually needs processing to dump lossy files to lossless takes me about a day (10-20 hours) then I'm clipping and mapping out beats in premiere for maybe 5-10 more hours before I actually start editing anything. If anything, I think it's gotten faster than in the past for me. I used to start a project about 2 weeks before I really "started" it.
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Re: Editing is a slow process these days....

Post by Enigmo » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:42 pm

this is exactly the case. it's become so slow that i've contemplated going back to my old methods of using others' Windows Movie Maker AMVs as source material for my edits
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Re: Editing is a slow process these days....

Post by CrackTheSky » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:17 pm

I have yet to actually make a video using HD sources, and you all are reinforcing the notion that I never should, thank you.

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Re: Editing is a slow process these days....

Post by macchinainterna » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:17 pm

I think that in the last year I've put out more videos than I have ever in the past, and I'm still going. I don't know what y'all are talking about :bear:

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Re: Editing is a slow process these days....

Post by Sephirothskr » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:45 pm

For Prison Break, I finished 30 seconds of the video in literally two hours the other day. (Then the time just skyrocketed from there due to scene selection) I never really have to clean up my footage except the rare cases when I get some banding in those darker scenes.

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Re: Editing is a slow process these days....

Post by Qyot27 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:01 am

Footage acquisition is almost always the longest part of the process. I actually did rip some Blu-rays last month, and the whole disc takes anywhere from 40m to 1h20m or so (depends on what else you're doing or how much is on the disc), simply because the read speeds are slower than for DVD. Blu-ray is slower to rip than DVD is slower to rip than CD. It's a technological limitation.

The rest is mostly logistical. I always do a rough conversion to 432x240 MJPEG for clip selection, and then set up AviSynth scripts to make the cuts so that all I have to do is use VirtualDub's jobs control (old) or ffmpeg in a for-loop (new) to actually produce the clips. Then the editing process can start; the only difference is in the fact that editing with 1080p directly will make my computer choke, so I'll have a bit of a bait-and-switch with the clips this time around (edit with 480p versions, then re-render the clips at 1080p for final export).
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Re: Editing is a slow process these days....

Post by Shui » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:55 am

Am I reading correctly that you compress your footage with zarxgui before importing it into your editing software?
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Re: Editing is a slow process these days....

Post by Gene Starwind 21122 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:50 am

I'm working on a large project of 12 animes. The uncompressed avi files are around 6 or 7 GB for a few minutes of footage. I always give myself a little leadway just incase there is something else I want to use in that scene. So it takes up a lot of space.
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Re: Editing is a slow process these days....

Post by BasharOfTheAges » Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:29 am

Lossless 1080p @ 1GB/min is perfectly reasonable for editing with. HDDs are cheap.
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