Time for a dumb video rant! Bring the flames!

Savia · Post by **Savia** » Sat Aug 09, 2003 3:45 pm

Arigatomyna wrote:
Phade wrote:Hey All,

Here is the collection of site forum rules. This list will be modified as rules are added and/or changed.

The AnimeMusicVideos.org Code of Ethics:

<ol><li>Thou shalt be courteous at all times including visiting conventions, forum posts, opinions given, and opinions received. Respect other's judgment though you may disagree with it.</li><li>Thou shalt not use downloaded video footage to make AMVs.</li><li> Thou shalt not use downloaded music to make AMVs.</li>
Sorry to be persistent, but if I'm taking the second rule too seriously, maybe it should be ammended - 'Thou shalt not use downloaded video footage to make AMVs unless you want to' - or something similar. Otherwise it's misleading.

Although I agree with you, I also would like to point out that that list is a "Code of Ethics", not a list of rules.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sat Aug 09, 2003 3:46 pm

Code of ethics is not the same as the code of regulations.

There is a lot of stuff in the world that, while unethical/immoral, is legal and commonplace.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Sat Aug 09, 2003 3:51 pm

Well, he does say 'Here is the collection of site forum rules' before he qualifies the list as being 'ethics' - but that's a moot point. Either we are or we are *not* allowed to use downloaded footage. I thought were were *not* allowed to. If we are, I'd agree with Otohiko - it's easy to get good quality subs, some better than I can compress my dvd rips. If that's not against the rules I can overlook the ethics. My question now - is it a rule, or merely a guideline? Because obviously it makes a big difference.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sat Aug 09, 2003 3:54 pm

I think it's more of a "we aren't going to crucify you if you do, but we'd really appreciate it if you didnt use pirated sources when making amvs".

Sinkua · Post by **Sinkua** » Sat Aug 09, 2003 3:55 pm

Maybe it's just me, but almost all the AMVs that I've seen have been from downloaded anime. Buying the necessary hardware and videos to make your AMVs can get quite costly.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sat Aug 09, 2003 3:57 pm

So is the software... and the computer to make them in the first place.

It's not a cheap hobby

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sat Aug 09, 2003 3:58 pm

Personally, being the rebel I am, I'd drop the pretenses and dispense of the rule. However, that's a bit tricky. If you're Phade, on one hand - you can't say "A digisub AMV is not an AMV", on the other hand, if a DVD company gets on the community's case about condoning downloading anime - you can't just tell em to shove it without legal repercussions.

So, having it as an ethical guideline is a smart political move on Phade's behalf. It keeps the community a true collection of all possible AMV's, yet provides some insurance against legal watchdogs.

Plus, it's true that DVD's are easier to encode properly and produce better-looking results, so that makes a good piece of advice to beginners.

Fluxmeister · Post by **Fluxmeister** » Sat Aug 09, 2003 4:04 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:
The only redeeming factor is that it is small, which is more than you can say for the soon-to-be-banned-for-too-much-violence video The Death Vid which has the honour of being 75mb, 3 mins long encoded with cinepak with uncompressed 22khz mono sound.

ay carumba...

Speaking of the death video... it seems to have at least 1 VERY familiar sequence of edits... : P (borrowed footage from my blood video ???)

oh well...

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Sat Aug 09, 2003 4:04 pm

I'd say you can definitely get better quality with dvd rips than even the best digisub (though it could be cutting it close in a few places), so that's motivation. And you'll get slack for using downloaded footage, especially if the vid *looks* like it used it. And I'd agree with the cost issue - but then, having bandwidth high enough to get the good quality downloads can be just as costly - I've never had a connection fast enough to let me download *anything* that could be used in a vid. That makes it easy for me to say 'don't use it.' I know why people do, and why the 'ethic' is in place.

^_^ I appologize for mistaking that 'guideline' for a concrete rule. As I said, it makes a world of difference. I always wondered why people kept making all those fuzzy little subtitled vids and nothing happened in response besides bickering - it's *frowned upon* not against the rules. Heh, like a frown would stop anyone. Thanks for explaining. ^_^

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sat Aug 09, 2003 4:07 pm

Actually, and I know this is a bit off topic, I've been surprised how good some Digisubs are. Some recent fansub files have been phenomemal, and at the same time the Eva DVD's I'm watching now I found under-impressive, compression wise. I swear to god, there's many a fansub that's better-quality than that.

Time for a dumb video rant! Bring the flames!

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