Today's sign of the Apocalypse: FF7-2 and a New Evangelion?!

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Post by #1 » Sat Nov 22, 2003 11:16 am

ok yes, sephiroth is back, but in a new way. Spoilers for the game below

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Remember how Sephiroth was a genetically altered baby? and remember how the lifeforce works. Everything dies to heal, and then is reborn, but what if it was able to be harnessed? possibly through the mako reactors? From what ive read that square-enix has published on their web site, someone has captured Sephiroth's portion of the lifestream and given him a new body(much like his old one) Only real difference is the masamune is broken, and seph has short hair now.
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Post by TallonKarrde23 » Sat Nov 22, 2003 12:34 pm

you did the spoilers wrong idiot --; THIS is how you do it
Remember how Sephiroth was a genetically altered baby? and remember how the lifeforce works. Everything dies to heal, and then is reborn, but what if it was able to be harnessed? possibly through the mako reactors? From what ive read that square-enix has published on their web site, someone has captured Sephiroth's portion of the lifestream and given him a new body(much like his old one) Only real difference is the masamune is broken, and seph has short hair now.
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Post by Pierrot Le Fou » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:13 pm

kearlywi wrote:
FF7 is 7 years old (which in video game years is an eternity) and because of this may be hard to come by (or expensive).
I picked up a brand new copy last year for $20 CDN. It's one of the top selling video games of all time, and it's still very easy to get a copy. They're even still printing the strategy guide which has sold over a million copies.
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Post by lafayette » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:41 pm

max3000 wrote: I don't think FF7-2 will be as good as the original.
Frankly, i'm mad at Square for ruining the best RPG ever!
well you dont know if square has ruined a great rpg as no really seems to know the story line to the movie, and we dont know about a FF7-2 cos we dont know jack really, sorry to people that do know the story line to the movie and if you do know it and to message me it as i`d love to know it,
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Post by Shun » Sat Nov 22, 2003 6:20 pm

TallonKarrde23 wrote:
Shun wrote:
TallonKarrde23 wrote:
Shun wrote:
kearlywi wrote:
TallonKarrde23 wrote:its pretty old news, advent children that is, and it being just a movie, i dont know if they will make a game from it. If they did you'd already know the ending if you saw the movie --; But if FFX-2 does good then perhaps they will make advent children into FFVII-2...hope not
This is the way I see it. Final Fantasy 7 ended in such a way that it really felt there wasnt much room for a sequel afterwards. The game ends, we see the Powerfactories shut down and abandoned (almost to signify the end of advanced civilation, and the last shot of Final Fantasy 7 takes place 500 years after the game ends. It had a very strong sense of finality, there was no feeling that a sequel was needed to satisfy storyline concerns. However, people have really wanted a sequel because FF7 has some of the best characters, and some of the best gameplay in the series. The way I see it, just jumping up and doing a sequel to FF7 would seem a little disconnected, like the Matrix sequels. However, from what I understand "advent children" is actually supposed to explain a "new evil." Thats the whole purpose of the movie from what I've read. It pretty much seems like a setup for something beyond that if you ask me. Normally, I'd be suspicious, but considering the release of FFX2, and breaking the long standing rule that no FF can have a sequel, I really think this is their goal here.
Spoiler box please :cry:
OR JUST CATCH UP WITH THE TIMES!!!! if you did that you wouldnt have to worry about spoilers
You know, DBZ was released over 10 years ago and people are still just watching it? I'm sure you havnt seen or played every single thing that came out and there for im going to leave your incredibly ignorant comment behind and suggest that you read the sticky at the top of this forum, Thank you.
oh my, how about just seeing spoilers anyway and dealing with it? Happened to me, it doesnt detract much from a show. Its just like old plays where they tell you whats gonna happen, its called ...some kind of drama....dont remember which. But meh. But if you dont wanna get spoilers then catch up, and if you dont want too, either deal with reading spoilers when someone posts them w/o making it known, or just dont read any threads at any anime message board!
Well it really dosent matter what you think about it, Phade asked everyone to do it and its a common courtesy. Just because you out of all the people on the forum dont mind being spoiled dosent meen everyone else dosent.

P.S. Its called Dramatic Irony. It was used in old plays, but if im gonna play a game that takes hours to get through i would prefer to get to the ending by myself instead of someone blurting it out. Maybe thats just me...

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Post by azulmagia » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:46 pm

Pierrot Le Fou wrote:
kearlywi wrote:
FF7 is 7 years old (which in video game years is an eternity) and because of this may be hard to come by (or expensive).
I picked up a brand new copy last year for $20 CDN. It's one of the top selling video games of all time, and it's still very easy to get a copy. They're even still printing the strategy guide which has sold over a million copies.
Best.....strategy guide....evar. Just take a sniff of the paper it's printed on.

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Post by TallonKarrde23 » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:49 pm

mexico is south though perhaps its is north if we were to not be there were we are and then we'd be not here
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Post by kearlywi » Sun Nov 23, 2003 1:36 am

Pierrot Le Fou wrote:I picked up a brand new copy last year for $20 CDN. It's one of the top selling video games of all time, and it's still very easy to get a copy. They're even still printing the strategy guide which has sold over a million copies.
Interesting. Did you buy it online? I'm not really sure what you mean by CDN. Anyway, the game was last re-released in 1999 as a "playstations greatest hits" title. I havent seen it in major software stores in well over a year, hell trying to find any PS1 game is hard now, most software places only have a handful of them). It figures that Square will re-release it again (and they should), seeing as it did sell very well over 7 years ago, and is generally considered a classic. Probably a person's best chance to find it is online or at a used game store.

Anyway, forgive me but I find this whole thing kind of stupid. I am a BIG opponent to spoilers. I do not watch AMV's to animes that I am in the process of watching. I like to learn as little as possible about games before I play them. I have used the spoiler courtesy at least a few times on this site already, and having played the game several times through amounting to several hundred hours of gameplay, I can assure you that the "offensive" information was completely irrelevant to the general plot of the game or to the characters. I did actually consider using spoiler courtesy, but then I realized how stupid that was, because talking about Advent Children would give away a lot more than to say "500 years in the future the world is still in one peice." I mean OF COURSE its still in one peice, thats only natural! A spoiler would be to say that its not (and why).

I'm amazed by how little support there is (in this thread) for a FF7 sequel.
How can you be sure it will be a terrible game? A lot of people think that Breath of fire 2 was better than Breath of Fire, same goes for Suikoden II and I, and some argue the same for Lunar II and I. I am personally a huge RPG fan, and have played (and beaten) essentially every major RPG, including Dragon Quests 5 and 6 which were never released in the U.S. (as well as the rest of the series). I consider myself a hardcore RPG fan, and yet FF7-2 seems like EXACTLY what RPG's need right now. Until FFX-2 was released a few days ago, the only major console RPG's to be released in the current 128 bit era of video games was FFX and Suikoden III. RPG's are in decline, and this is evidenced by Square-enix's willingness to break their 18 year rule of no sequels (to FF games), to bring some excitement back to the FF series, and hopefully make it the make-or-break powerhouse series it was for 2 console generations (SNES and PS1).

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Post by Scintilla » Sun Nov 23, 2003 1:55 am

Shun wrote:P.S. Its called Dramatic Irony. It was used in old plays, but if im gonna play a game that takes hours to get through i would prefer to get to the ending by myself instead of someone blurting it out. Maybe thats just me...
I thought "dramatic irony" only meant that the audience knew something important that the characters didn't (like how we (and all the other characters) know who the Fourth Child is long before Shinji finds out in Episode 18, unlike in the manga where he knows in advance)... not necessarily being told right out what's <i>going</i> to happen.
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Post by Alex_Dragon » Sun Nov 23, 2003 2:33 am

Lunar:SSS was left open to a sequal and that sequal was made not very long after the original.Plus the endings to FF7 and Lunar:SSS are completely different.Making a sequal to FF7 is a bad idea,Period.If they were to do that most likely the story would suck royaly just like FF10's story sucked.Sure the graphics will look nice but that means nothing to people who have actually thought about how they would have to ruin the story in order to get there.
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