Why is it that DBZ+Linkin Park is so widely used? (serious)

Dark Kamui · Post by **Dark Kamui** » Sun Jul 07, 2002 10:05 pm

Hmm... I wonder if I could con all the peeps in my DBZers mail archive to review my Vegeta vid... I'd probably get 500+ oppinions with all 10s

otakuscotty · Post by **otakuscotty** » Sun Jul 07, 2002 10:32 pm

Dark Kamui! Your "In the end" video was incredible! not only did you fit the action of the song with e video, you were able to (uncommony and very tastefully) fit the emotion with the video.

weeell here is my take with this DBZ/Lincon Park debate... I think there is so may LP/DBZ is the same reason why there is so many Limp buscuit/DBZ amvs....they fit each other so perfectly. i'm not sure the motvation to trash dbz, maybe it is "cool" to trash dbz, but it is everone's perogative (i loath the day when us anime otakus start thinking it is cool to diss Akira and Onegai Techer) My only qualm with the influx of dbz in songs is that many of the same schenes are used and re-used and it desensitizes the audience of teh emothion of the scene. (and less original) yet the originalty of an overused schene can be revitilized if tastefully done) I really don't want you critics to convince teh creators that doing DBZ wil give you bad billing, because there is many more great possibilities with music can be integrated into this series. Bottom line is you just need to produce an awesome video or it may be overlooked, there is already so many vieos on the database that anybody can be overlooked---one way to not be overlooked is combine good music(linkon park) with good video editing(easyer said than done)
.............ahhhh this is too redundant, don't read my post

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Sun Jul 07, 2002 11:40 pm

I dunno about you guys but I really liked MonkeyGOD's Akira/Linkin Park video from AX....

ZeWrestler · Post by **ZeWrestler** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 5:30 am

i wounder how many times someone has ask about dbz and linkin park being so widly used

Bushido Philosopher · Post by **Bushido Philosopher** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 1:35 pm

well, to say the least....none of us really look into DBZ anymore because going through all of that mess just for a couple being good is not worth it, especially those with 56K.

So for a DBZ vid to be actually popular it would have to eyecatch TONS of people. So for those of you who are making so very few excellent ones, blame your fellow fans for your troubles.

iammyselfnotyou · Post by **iammyselfnotyou** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 8:00 am

This is a tad off the Linkin Park topic but another band used consuctivly with DBZ is Offspring. Offspring is a good band Especially with Trigun but doesn't seem to fit to well into the DBall genre. Oh well I can't stop bad AMV's but I can try right?

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Wed Jul 10, 2002 11:54 pm

The answer to this problem is extremely simple math. DragonCrap Z is the most popular Anime for videos in general, while Linkin Park is the most popular group for videos in general. Therefore, statistically, Dragoncrap Z/Linkin Park should logically be the most common combination. It's really not that hard to figure out.

The problem is only exacerbated by the fact that most of these vids are made by people who don't know how cliche it is, i.e. newbies, and therefore have bad editing skill and little or no talent.

What's funny is that if the AMV veterans made enough good LinkinCrap Z videos, it would actually improve the combo's standing rather than making it even more cliche.

For the record I used neither Linkin Park NOR DragonCrap Z for my first video. I used Crazy Town and Evangeu</o *takes a bow*

TheRealNeoHentaiMaster · Post by **TheRealNeoHentaiMaster** » Thu Jul 11, 2002 8:10 am

Jesus you people are seeing way to deeply into this, along with your own personal biases against DBZ and Linkin Park. I mean, do you honestly expect your opinions on this to matter if its clear you already hate dbz and Linkin Park anyway.
The reason for the constant Dbz/Linkin Park vids is really simple. Theyre just a really obvious and easy match. Most music vid makers are not pros, theyre beginers, and putting Dbz and Linkin Park together is something that can be really easily done by beginer. This is also why Dbz/Linkin Park vids suck so much, theyre all done by beginers. Also, beginers at music vids are most likely new to anime has well and less likely to have a huge amount of anime they own to go through for footage. No problem, Dbz is on CN every day, dont gotta worry you havent had time to by anything other than you Linkin Park album your parents probably bought you.
Stop being so condesending towards all these people just trying to start out and get some experience. When you try and learn something new, you dont instantly go for the hardest level, you start out simple, Dbz and Linkin Park together is very simple, very easy to time and match emotion and such. I know ive seen people go from producing crappy dbz/Linkin Park vids to making vids that will be remembered fondly for a long time in less then a year or two of experience making vids. Point is, give these people a break, they'll get better in time, especailly with all the great vid makers out there now to learn from now.

FirestormXIII · Post by **FirestormXIII** » Thu Jul 11, 2002 5:13 pm

You've got some good points there. For a guy who's name is 'TheRealNeoHentaiMaster' you've kind of surprised me by actually having thought out posts and being polite. (Though jbone would probably say your spelling needs work)

As for LP/DBZ, there's only a couple thoughts more that I have on it. The biggest problem with the whole combo *is* the obviousness of it. It's so obvious that the mass majority of people who do the combo don't think when they do it, they just try and time hits and explosions without giving a second thought to most of the lyrics. I'm not saying everyone does this, in fact I've seen video done to 'With You' that does a good job of presenting Future Trunks' relationship with Vegeta and Bulma. But the flipside of that is people that use say, 'Pushing Me Away', or 'Points of Authority' without addressing what the song is talking about.

It's ok for something to be obvious, but as an AMV creator you're supposed to have vision or inspiration. Those two qualities basically require that you at least think about what you're putting together.