Editing with M2V/MPEG2 - Almost (Need Guru level help)

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Editing with M2V/MPEG2 - Almost (Need Guru level help)

Post by Dark4554 » Tue May 11, 2004 2:14 pm

Hey Guys,

I've been experimenting with trying to edit with the cleanest image possible. Obviously, unless you have the Dbeta Masters, a DVD is the best you can get. So the question is, can you snag the M2V and either edit with them, or re-render them losslessly into a format that Premiere (6.5 or pro) won't choke on. My findings follow:

I used DVD Decryptor to get the M2V at around a gig per episode, which is a very nice size to work with. (much better than DVAVI) There is a third party plugin (Main Concept - Mpeg) that was suppose to let you handle the M2V like an DVAVI file... Only it wouldn't. Only if you had created the M2V itself would it work properly. I'm guessing it's because of the dynamic bitrate. So I decided to try to import the M2V and recompress it.

I rendered out a few seconfs, and it worked great! I could scrub the video perfectly. So I went to render the whole thing.... Render time: 2 days. :shock:

For one episode, obviously this is no good.. So, is there ANY way to edit with M2Vs? Or rather, is there any way to get good quality besides using a DV bridge to capture without spending several grand on an editing suite?

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Post by Joykiller » Tue May 11, 2004 2:38 pm

There absulotely is a way to use the m2vs directly!

It's called Avisynth.

Read all about it right here.

As a matter of fact you don't even have to extract the d2vs to use avisynth, you can load the VOBs directly, and avisynth can handle grabbing the video stream for you.
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Post by Joykiller » Tue May 11, 2004 2:44 pm

Joykiller wrote: As a matter of fact you don't even have to extract the d2vs to use avisynth, you can load the VOBs directly, and avisynth can handle grabbing the video stream for you.
That should have been M2V, not D2V, sorry about that.

I also wanted to point out that Avisynth can handle all of your resizing, deinterlacing, IVTCing, frame rate adjusting, etc., as well as get the footage into premiere all in one fell swoop. It is indeed the holy grail of AMVs :P
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Post by SQ » Tue May 11, 2004 3:43 pm

Wait a minute.

You're talking about rendering a whole episode?
Why the hell would you want to do that?
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Or did you just mean rendering the whole episode to an easier to edit format to edit with Premiere? Image
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Post by Dark4554 » Tue May 11, 2004 7:35 pm

Joykiller wrote:There absulotely is a way to use the m2vs directly!

It's called Avisynth.
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:D Swag!

Go figure; it was under my nose the whole time. Man, that's perfect!
What a great app; I've been trying to figure out how to do this for months!! Many thanks!
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Post by Dark4554 » Tue May 11, 2004 7:41 pm

SQ wrote:Wait a minute.

You're talking about rendering a whole episode?
Why the hell would you want to do that?
Because I don't know every scene off by heart. :wink: I needed to render it as an M2V again, because it needed to be set at a fixed bitrate for that 3rd party app to work.

By dumping an entire episode to disk, I can scrub it at my lesuire, and find shots as I make the video...

When I was capturing to DV through a DV bride off of DVD (S to Firewire) my greatest ass kicker was having to constantly stop editing to go back and capture more source.. Having the entire episode is just a good resourse, and will make for more unique AMVs.. Everyone knows the favorite scenes in a anime (aka the Asuka fight scene in EoE, which I am guilty of using more than once), but a great AMV uses unexpected shots... I'm hoping by having the whole thing that it will aid me with this.
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Post by SQ » Tue May 11, 2004 7:44 pm

That's what I thought, but for a second there you almost had me think you were bootlegging.

Sorry for accusation, though. ^^
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Post by Dark4554 » Wed May 12, 2004 6:47 pm

SQ wrote:That's what I thought, but for a second there you almost had me think you were bootlegging.

Sorry for accusation, though. ^^
:shock: Good lord, no...
Besides, anyone who bootlegs Eva is a moron; it kicks so much ass, why WOULDN'T you buy it? :D
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