How many things can you find wrong with this?

Voices_Of_Ryan · Post by **Voices_Of_Ryan** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:24 pm

AMV_4000 wrote:i found the big error...

Sailor Moon Anime
Bargain Priced Sailor Moon Anime and More On Sale at eBay! (aff)
ebay.com

you cant find good sailor moon eps on ebay!

0O

Voices_Of_Ryan · Post by **Voices_Of_Ryan** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:28 pm

Ma'am... I think you might have needed to research the information before you wrote the guide to making Anime music videos.

http://anime.about.com/od/howtos/ht/aa070204.htm

Because frankly (even though I relize that you DID give a specific link to phades guide to amv making) it was lacking AT BEST. And made me draw back and be embaressed hoping, that nobody in our community saw that artical.

Rather unforchantly, they where the one's that directed me to the specific URL before I'd seen it myself, and... That's really embaressing for all of us I think.

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... hp?t=38704

Please, Research something a bit more before you make something like that about it again.

Think that mighta been too harsh

?
I tried to be the nicest I could

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Unfound · Post by **Unfound** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:32 pm

Be creative. The only limitation to anime music videos is your own imagination.

3....

AMV_4000 · Post by **AMV_4000** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:34 pm

Castor Troy wrote:Difficulty: Average

I wish it were still that easy.

# Don't just put an entire episode to music. Pick and choose the best parts of the episode(s) then string them together so that they flow from one to the next. Think about movie previews you see on TV.

How could I not know of this?!!?

*does it*

ok, i think she ment the dificulty that she wanted people reading it.. as in dont read if your pro, and if your beginner, then you have a little bit to go before you can become good... also, amvs arent hard to make, they just take to much dam time... and as for the OBVIOUS things put on the guide... their obvious to us, but to noobs... some noobs make things like this... and could only dream about making something like this... overall, its a pretty basic guide, it goes into little detail, and i wouldnt recommend it much.. but what i would recommend.. is checking out Aluminum's guide to premiere 5/6 this is much better in my opinion...

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:06 pm

Don't just put an entire episode to music. Pick and choose the best parts of the episode(s) then string them together so that they flow from one to the next. Think about movie previews you see on TV.

That means Big Dave's Akon 14 Iron Chef video broke the rules.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:06 pm

I, in the e-mail I just sent off, wrote:Dear Ms. Luther,

My name is Peter Tom-Wolverton, known online and in the AMV community as Scintilla of Aquiline Studios, and I am writing to you regarding your "How to Make Your Own Anime Music Video" guide ( http://anime.about.com/od/howtos/ht/aa070204.htm ). I discovered it through a link that someone else posted on the forums at animemusicvideos.org.

First off, let me say that it is commendable that you're trying to help people get into this fascinating hobby in such a way. However, I must suggest that your execution leaves something to be desired.

A few specific issues I had with your tutorial:

1. Nowhere in the tutorial or in the associated links is there a link to THE best guide to the technical side of AMVs, namely, Ermac and AbsoluteDestiny's Guide, which can be found here:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/

2. "Time Required: Can take several hours, depending on your resources"? You've got to be kidding. I have not seen one AMV yet that took only hours to produce and was actually any good. A few days I can understand, a week or two is more reasonable, and some of us take months to make a single video ("Euphoria", currently the #1-rated video on a-m-v.org, took 6 months). But there's no way that anything banged out in a few hours had enough thought and care put into it to be very good.

3. "Start by picking a song that has two qualities: 1) you really like it and 2) it has an anime 'feel' to it." Okay, #1 I have no problem with, but #2 doesn't make sense at all. There are good videos from all kinds of genres of music: J-pop, classical, rock, 80s, techno, etc.

4. "Using purchased DVD's that you own, you'll need to import your selected clips into MPEG or AVI format." It's good that you emphasized that DVDs make the best source and we should be buying them ourselves, but converting DVD clips to MPEG-1 before editing with them is not a good idea, mainly because of the quality loss (it may not seem like much, but when you re-compress for distribution, it makes a big difference). AVI is not a problem, but only if the right codec is used: the AVI should either be uncompressed or use a lossless codec, like HuffYUV. Using things like DivX for source clips is just asking for trouble, because it not only hits the quality hard, but also makes it harder for most editing programs to handle the clips, as well as introducing the problem of nasty DivX logos if you're using something like Windows Movie Maker.
Ideally, you want to serve the DVD footage straight to your editing software without touching it, through programs such as DVD2AVI/DGIndex and AVISynth; more on the various methods for using DVD footage can be found in the guide I linked to above.

5. "Using one of many editing programs out there (Adobe Premier and Pinnacle are both great choices) slice your video clips according to your song lyrics." Firstly, Premiere is misspelled; secondly, a little lyric synch never hurt anyone (I admit to using it extensively myself), but you might also want to mention the importance of things like synching cuts to important beats (very important in action and dance videos) and making the footage generally flow to the music in areas where there are no lyrics as well as where there are lyrics.

6. "All that's left to do now is burn your masterpiece to a CD and enter it in one of the many con competitions! Good luck!" It would be much more helpful if you had included some information as to how to get one's video into a format conventions will take (read: MPEG-2 or lossless AVI). You might also want to give some links to some conventions; also, information on putting up one's video for online distribution is conspicuously lacking.

7. "Pick a song that matches your clips. For example, Dragon Ball Z fight scenes go great with tunes from Limp Bizkit, Disturbed and Metallica." Okay... IN THEORY this should work well, but the sad reality is that there are far, FAR too many of what we call "Linkin Ball Z" videos floating around, and hardly any of them are any good. As a result, mixing DBZ with hard rock tunes has come to have a huge stigma attached to it. So you might want to suggest that, if your readers want to be taken seriously, they should try something else.

Before you dismiss this e-mail as me merely talking out of my hat, let me point out that I have been a finalist in the AMV contest at Otakon two years running and have won Best of Show at AnimeCentral 2004, Best Comedy at the Anime Weekend Atlanta 9 AMV Expo, Best in Class - Journeyman at Anime Boston 2004, etc.
You can find more about my AMVs at my website:
http://www.aquilinestudios.org/

I hope that you seriously consider my comments, that you take the time to do some more research and improve your tutorial, and that it may help to introduce more fans to the great hobby that is AMVing.

Sincerely,
Peter "Scintilla" T-W

I tried to make it clear that I appreciated her intent...

Voices_Of_Ryan · Post by **Voices_Of_Ryan** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:07 pm

Castor Troy wrote: Don't just put an entire episode to music. Pick and choose the best parts of the episode(s) then string them together so that they flow from one to the next. Think about movie previews you see on TV.

That means Big Dave's Akon 14 Iron Chef video broke the rules.

8)

If everyone followed that guide, this place would be a really odd place to hang out in.

Voices_Of_Ryan · Post by **Voices_Of_Ryan** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:08 pm

Scintilla wrote:
I, in the e-mail I just sent off, wrote:Dear Ms. Luther,

My name is Peter Tom-Wolverton, known online and in the AMV community as Scintilla of Aquiline Studios, and I am writing to you regarding your "How to Make Your Own Anime Music Video" guide ( http://anime.about.com/od/howtos/ht/aa070204.htm ). I discovered it through a link that someone else posted on the forums at animemusicvideos.org.

First off, let me say that it is commendable that you're trying to help people get into this fascinating hobby in such a way. However, I must suggest that your execution leaves something to be desired.

A few specific issues I had with your tutorial:

1. Nowhere in the tutorial or in the associated links is there a link to THE best guide to the technical side of AMVs, namely, Ermac and AbsoluteDestiny's Guide, which can be found here:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/

2. "Time Required: Can take several hours, depending on your resources"? You've got to be kidding. I have not seen one AMV yet that took only hours to produce and was actually any good. A few days I can understand, a week or two is more reasonable, and some of us take months to make a single video ("Euphoria", currently the #1-rated video on a-m-v.org, took 6 months). But there's no way that anything banged out in a few hours had enough thought and care put into it to be very good.

3. "Start by picking a song that has two qualities: 1) you really like it and 2) it has an anime 'feel' to it." Okay, #1 I have no problem with, but #2 doesn't make sense at all. There are good videos from all kinds of genres of music: J-pop, classical, rock, 80s, techno, etc.

4. "Using purchased DVD's that you own, you'll need to import your selected clips into MPEG or AVI format." It's good that you emphasized that DVDs make the best source and we should be buying them ourselves, but converting DVD clips to MPEG-1 before editing with them is not a good idea, mainly because of the quality loss (it may not seem like much, but when you re-compress for distribution, it makes a big difference). AVI is not a problem, but only if the right codec is used: the AVI should either be uncompressed or use a lossless codec, like HuffYUV. Using things like DivX for source clips is just asking for trouble, because it not only hits the quality hard, but also makes it harder for most editing programs to handle the clips, as well as introducing the problem of nasty DivX logos if you're using something like Windows Movie Maker.
Ideally, you want to serve the DVD footage straight to your editing software without touching it, through programs such as DVD2AVI/DGIndex and AVISynth; more on the various methods for using DVD footage can be found in the guide I linked to above.

5. "Using one of many editing programs out there (Adobe Premier and Pinnacle are both great choices) slice your video clips according to your song lyrics." Firstly, Premiere is misspelled; secondly, a little lyric synch never hurt anyone (I admit to using it extensively myself), but you might also want to mention the importance of things like synching cuts to important beats (very important in action and dance videos) and making the footage generally flow to the music in areas where there are no lyrics as well as where there are lyrics.

6. "All that's left to do now is burn your masterpiece to a CD and enter it in one of the many con competitions! Good luck!" It would be much more helpful if you had included some information as to how to get one's video into a format conventions will take (read: MPEG-2 or lossless AVI). You might also want to give some links to some conventions; also, information on putting up one's video for online distribution is conspicuously lacking.

7. "Pick a song that matches your clips. For example, Dragon Ball Z fight scenes go great with tunes from Limp Bizkit, Disturbed and Metallica." Okay... IN THEORY this should work well, but the sad reality is that there are far, FAR too many of what we call "Linkin Ball Z" videos floating around, and hardly any of them are any good. As a result, mixing DBZ with hard rock tunes has come to have a huge stigma attached to it. So you might want to suggest that, if your readers want to be taken seriously, they should try something else.

Before you dismiss this e-mail as me merely talking out of my hat, let me point out that I have been a finalist in the AMV contest at Otakon two years running and have won Best of Show at AnimeCentral 2004, Best Comedy at the Anime Weekend Atlanta 9 AMV Expo, Best in Class - Journeyman at Anime Boston 2004, etc.
You can find more about my AMVs at my website:
http://www.aquilinestudios.org/

I hope that you seriously consider my comments, that you take the time to do some more research and improve your tutorial, and that it may help to introduce more fans to the great hobby that is AMVing.

Sincerely,
Peter "Scintilla" T-W
I tried to make it clear that I appreciated her intent...

I think everyone should email her

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Bote · Post by **Bote** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:09 pm

OMG! When she sees S's e-mail she'll faint.

But I agree with everyone upon this matter.

inthesto · Post by **inthesto** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:13 pm

Don't just put an entire episode to music.

You know, I think I've gotten two separate opinions for two separate videos telling me my AMVs look like "episodes with music put on top."