storyboarding and other ways to plan an AMV

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:13 pm

@the winster,
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@ddramone
as for storyboarding, i'll find the lyrics, annotate instrumentation, dynamics, mood, beats, tempo, chords, then identify candidate scenes. and then i'll end up following 50% of what i planned from storyboarding.

advantage of storyboarding is that it does make it easier to see the overall direction of the video. disadvantage of storyboarding is that writing down scene sequences isn't the same as seeing them played in sequence.

as for lyrics, i tend to use them to guide scene selection. however, it's important to keep flow and overall direction in mind (it's really annoying to see an dramatic sequence interrupted by a comedic scene just to fit lyrics). when i encounter nonsensical lyrics, i either ignore them (which allows me to play off previous or upcoming scenes), or i interpret them figuratively.

DDramone wrote:i always thought i'd just listen to the song over and over again, but say i wanna do a vid to a song i really like. i dont wanna kill the song for myself

this usually happens during the editing process, when you have to watch and listen to a 2-second fragment 50 times over to get the timing right. the storyboarding process won't be so bad.

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:23 pm

I didn't read other posts, so I'll be totally unafected (I would have been surely reading all

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Usually, What I do after have discovered the audio (and luckily video) footage, is found somewhere the lyrics, read them and take a photograph of them in my head, and more on that, learn well all the true meaning of the song, (I use the lyrics, that I follow, to choose the clips, the effects and the general going of the video) then, I listen it everytime I can, usually without being tired of it, I took it in places of my usual life because often I need time to find exactly what I want to do, but listening to the song I actually find a general storyline, or simply things like "In this part I want something like this", so I often have a general Idea of what the whole video will be, even if.. During the edit many times a lot of things changes, (the more littles, the "big ones" don't go anywhere).

I know I'm been quite confusional, sorry

The first video I actually planned writing it and writing a storyboard with my collaborator, was Darkness Over Light, The Other Side of Me Even if agaim I have to say that we changed things during the work and we actually didn't wrote ALL the video plan.

pen-pen2002 · Post by **pen-pen2002** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:17 pm

I don't so much plan as I conserve. When I'm editing I always have a very clear and focused sense of how much of each type of footage I have (how much action, how much landscapes, how long is that one scene). Sometimes I will strech things out or sometimes I will burn through a ton of footage in a single scene but I will never run out without meaning to. That goes for the whole project too in terms of matching the plot to the song, I don't plan it but I keep track of how much song I have left and ration accordingly.

downwithpants wrote:
DDramone wrote:i always thought i'd just listen to the song over and over again, but say i wanna do a vid to a song i really like. i dont wanna kill the song for myself
this usually happens during the editing process, when you have to watch and listen to a 2-second fragment 50 times over to get the timing right. the storyboarding process won't be so bad.

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Scandia · Post by **Scandia** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:18 pm

I do pay attention to lyrics and action correspondence. If the action does not match the lyrics by any stretch of the imagination, it reduces the quality. On the other hand, if it is a very close match, it will go up. It does not necessarily have to match word by word in every scene. Just a general theme. Most of my favorites do have very distinct lyric sync. In fact, there is one in Japanese where there seems to be at least some lyric sync. I speak no Japanese, yet they do seem to match.

The Wired Knight · Post by **The Wired Knight** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:56 pm

I sit down, close my eyes and set the song on repeat until I have the full idea in my head. This normatlly takes about two hours over a period of a couple of days and I'll have the full video in my head.

Bakadeshi · Post by **Bakadeshi** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:10 pm

silver_moon wrote:I never do any kind of storyboarding when I plan... I just listen to the song over and over and visualize scenes that I remember from the anime and visualize certain effects or cuts at certain parts as I listen to the music. I build up ideas this way until I have a solid plan in my mind of what I want my video to look like. But people do think differently, and some people might not be able to plan their videos this way as easily if they have a bad memory and have a hard time remembering what scenes existed in the anime. In that case, storyboarding might be a good idea.

funny thats the same thing I do when I make videos.... I've tried writing out my video plans before, but that just frustrated and confused me more than helped, and ended up not folowing it anyway. I watch the anime again first, so its fresh in my mind, listen to the song plenty of times, then I just visualize the general flow I want the video to go, and just search out scenes as I go on the timeline for the mood/setting I want.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:12 pm

I act out what I want to see in a video when I listen to the song.

Seriously, I do.

Like when I want Goku doing a kamehameha in one part the song, I act out the kamehameha.

istiv · Post by **istiv** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:28 am

find a song, then do the audio synchronization with markers.
find the videos.
imagine (can be very long)
do the storyline on paper
write the major ideas on a paper
draw some scenes on paper (i have very big notebook at final)

then, just do it.

DTJB · Post by **DTJB** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:56 pm

When I have decided which anime and which song to use, the creation process goes like this. First of all, I never rush. I always take my time to make my videos as perfect as possible. Even though the videos never come out perfect, I still give it my best effort. The first step involves watching the anime in question, from start to finish. As I do this, I write down what scenes or moments really stand out. Each scene is numerically grouped along with the episode it comes from. When I have all of my scenes picked, I decide which ones will fit well with the flow of the music, I lyric synch and beat synch to the best of my ability. Having my giant list of scenes really helps in case I forgot exactly what happened in the anime. This is always the longest part of the process (depending on how much free time I have and how many scenes I work with ) but it always pays off in the end. Once in a while I already have a set of scenes picked out for certain parts of a song, and just ignore the list altogether. Sometimes it works unless I find a better scene in the list. After that, editing on the computer.

DDramone · Post by **DDramone** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:02 pm

Castor Troy wrote:I act out what I want to see in a video when I listen to the song.

Seriously, I do.

Like when I want Goku doing a kamehameha in one part the song, I act out the kamehameha.

OMG IM SO DOING THAT FOR THE REST OF MY AMV MAKING CAREER!!!

sorry, got alot of great advice from everyone, wish i could quote everyone, but im actually at the ucla bookstore and its closing in 5 minutes. quick replys:

thanks for telling me not to worry about killing the song, cuz ill probobly kill it in the editing process anyways.

a timeline with lyrics sounds great

and, oh yeah, im pretty sure mega death just coverd anarchy in the UK. im pretty sure it was origionally written by the sex pistols.

anyways, god save the queen. peace out[/i]