Arigatomina wrote:shiraijunichi wrote:
SarahtheBoring wrote:
Personally, I don't care about your banner, with all due respect.
That's fine- everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I think you misunderstand. She doesn't care. That doesn't mean she dislikes it or thinks it's unworthy, it means she doesn't care.
You are correct, I misunderstood. I understand that some people don't care about banners. And that's fine too.
Arigatomina wrote:I only have one problem with your focus in this thread -
shiraijunichi wrote:
It's another reason why there are so many horrible banners- people don't spend the time they should. You might say, "But they got worthied", and I reply, "So what?"
Your response to Sarah:
shiraijunichi wrote:
However, I'd like to point out that you are in the minority in that respect. Having excluded myself, out of 150 people, 91 people thought it was worthy.
To which I reply, "So what?"
Your position here switches sides depending on whether you're talking about *your* banners or banners made by people who "are not you."
I apologize. You caught me in a moment of vengeance. I felt like I had been verbally assaulted twice, and I wanted some retribution. It was a shameful way to act, and I'm sorry. At the time of typing that, and right now, the number of votes my banner recieved does not influence how much I like my own banner.
Arigatomina wrote:shiraijunichi wrote:
Also, by doing this in the forums, I can make the advice I recieve available to anyone who wants to improve.
This would be true but for the fact the banners you keep pushing were made by only you - the criticism of your specific banners isn't general enough to apply to outsiders reading this thread.
I do not believe this to be the case. I have only asked for advice on ONE of my banners, and the revisions of it. Also, the one time that someone else posted banners asking for suggestions, I promptly responded, giving advice for all three. As far as advice I've recieved being too specific to apply to anyone else, I disagree. No one has given me really specific advice. I think my original banner had follies that a lot of others can relate to, such as text blurring with the background, and the excessive use of embossing.
I can see how my motives might be construed as shameless self promotion- for which I apologize. I can see it was a mistake to put my own work up.
Arigatomina wrote:You invite discussion under the pretense that you want to mold your banners to fit what people want. But you spend the entire time arguing that people should accept what you do and vote it worthy because for you to change it would be to conform your 'art' to fit them.
I have never said that someone should vote my banners worthy.
Arigatomina wrote:You keep saying it doesn't matter what other people think. How can you make a thread asking their opinions with a straight face when your response is "so what? It appears you think the opinions of others are more important than your own."
You generalize my statement. I said as long as you like it, that's all that matters. If you love what you've made, you shouldn't let others criticism make you like it less, right? When I submitted my banner, I liked it, but I knew there was room for improvement. So I was very open to suggestions. Now, however, I adore my final product, and have no desire to change it. I have not asked for suggestions since.
Arigatomina wrote:I don't see why you made this thread. Either you're compromising yourself (suddenly you *do* think opinions are more important than your own), or you're trying to bring attention to your banner in hopes of more votes the next time you submit it. If it's the latter, you lost one more vote.
I made this thread to help myself, and others, learn how to make banners that other people will like. I have since realized that motive was wrong. I think Sepuki stated it perfectly:
Sepuki wrote:When you start designing to get Worthied, you start losing the integrity of the piece. Focus on making a banner that you like, something you can be proud of.
Making banners that I like is what has become most important. However, that doesn't mean that the advice of others is no longer of use. The advice of others helped me turn a banner I liked into a banner I love. While the motive behind this thread's creation may have been impure, I think what has resulted from it is still good. I think people can learn from other people's "Not to do" list. It was never my intention to publicize my banner to help it get more votes. You'll notice that I didn't even post my banner until several posts after the thread was created.
I would like to apologize for any ill feelings I have stirred up, and also ask that any questions or statements regarding my character (or supposed lack thereof), or my banners be directed to me, via private messages. As I have said, this thread is about banners, and not about me. Thankyou. And I hope to see many more banner suggestions to come
- I cried 
My God. I find it incredibly sad when someone doesn't understand the basic principles involved with sarcasm. Go home and buy yourself a sense of humor, and learn to laugh at the morbid stuff, please.
