Irrational Judgements... Which ones are you guilty of?

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madbunny
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Post by madbunny » Wed May 04, 2005 12:38 am

Things that prejudice me:

1) People that create an 'online persona' and type as though they are say, a mob hitman or something equally lame "Youse godda wash my video or I breakka some headsa."

2) People that insist on using text messaging even though it should be patently obvious that they are on a actual forum not a little sidekick or something. "1st vd lv an OP pls" Come on guys... it really isn't hard to type actual words, with vowels and stuff in them.

3) People that make a really big deal out of the fact that they finished a video in like... 2 hours. I know that everyone has a different pace and all of that, heck maybe you're actually an elite editor that works at skywalker ranch with a million dollar system and this is how you blow off steam. The only thing is... most people who take pride in what they do usually make a point of also taking time.

4) English speakers that are unable to type coherent sentances, :roll: or use LOL every other sentance. LOL. (over use of smileys also counts :twisted: LOL.) Non English speakers that make an actual effort get a free pass, as long as they don't start with the LOL stuff. LOL :D :shock: :lol:

Sure, none of these really assures me that the video is bad, heck when I do the free ops thing I usually get a bunch of those, and am pleasantly surprised... but that doesn't stop me from cringing when I see. it.

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Post by Flint the Dwarf » Wed May 04, 2005 12:42 am

madbunny wrote:"Youse godda wash my video or I breakka some headsa."
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Post by JOE_Greezy » Wed May 04, 2005 10:02 am

I'm guilty of skipping over downling vids depending on which song is used. If it's Linkin Park, Evanescense (sp?) or some other band I don't like there is a slim chance I'll download the amv. I'm working on not doing this since a few vids I've downloaded that featured songs from bands I liked were a let down.
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Post by Gallup » Wed May 04, 2005 10:26 am

Personally I am guilty of judging a video by its size. If it is a small file I automatically assume that the vid is not very good and ignore it. I am trying hard not to do this, but it is hard. I also tend to judge videos by the anime that is used. If it is something that I have seen alot I tend to skip over it and look for something different.

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Post by SuperFusion » Wed May 04, 2005 12:48 pm

I don't download any AMVs that aren't recommended to me. The only time I download on my own is when I like the creator's previous works. I'd download just about anything Sierra Lorna releases. =/

I don't really care what song a person has chosen, or anime. I'm guilty of a few things you people don't like. I'm not gonna write an essay in my video's info just so you can figure out the whole overall theme. You do that by yourself. :?

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Post by dkellis » Wed May 04, 2005 12:50 pm

The only times I find myself prejudging (but I do it a lot of times) is when I find that the creator had a hissyfit in the video descriptions.

You know, the "(expletive deleted) you all, if you don't like my video then (anatomically impossible description)" sort of thing. If I see that, then I'm a lot less likely to download said video, even though I may like the song or anime or both.

Or people who get pissy over the smallest things. Which ties in with the first surprisingly well.

Coherency doesn't matter that much. English is my second language, I'm in no place to judge.
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Post by tuathaanwarrior » Wed May 04, 2005 4:25 pm

dkellis wrote:Coherency doesn't matter that much. English is my second language, I'm in no place to judge.
I didnt notice until you said that. It's certainly better than the lazy people who dont use grammar or spelling (something I too am guilty of on occasion).

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Post by Scandia » Wed May 04, 2005 4:38 pm

I honestly cannot think of any major prejudices I may have.

Although MPEG-1 usually does not look so good. But it would not prevent me from downloading an AMV.

I think that just not liking certain anime or songs, or thinking they are overused, is not exactly an irrational notion. It could be the AMV with the best sync and technical aspects, but if you dislike the series it is from or the band that played the tune, it probably won't tickle your fancy.

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Post by Arigatomina » Wed May 04, 2005 5:25 pm

1. Anime-category assumptions. If I see an Inuyasha vid, I automatically assume it's yet another Inuy/Kag romance vid. Naruto? It'll feature Naruto, or Sasuke and Naruto - character profile/action vid. Escaflowne? Romance and/or action. Love Hina? Slapstick comedy and/or drippy romance. Rurouni Kenshin? It's really a mislabeled ova vid featuring how much angsty Kenshin hates his blood-coverd hands. And so on, and so on. Oddly enough, the only anime that keeps me guessing is DBZ - I can assume it will be action, but there are 4 characters the focus could be on - rather than always being Goku/Vegeta (like Naruto/Sasuke vids), a DBZ vid could also feature Trunks or Gohan.

2. WMV inflation = poor quality. If I see a 60mb wmv file, I automatically assume it's poor quality fansubs at a high bitrate that does nothing but waste 6 hrs download time. This is actually an assumption I've tested repeatedly - it hasn't proven wrong once. Those who have high quality sources only use wmv for small file size and easy distribution (no extra codecs needed). If you have the know-how to maintain quality in a wmv, you're not going to overinflate the file size when you could get even *better* quality with a medium sized xvid or mpg.

3. Editor - genre assumptions. I won't name names, but I see someone has a new vid out and I usually assume it's the same 'sort' of vid the person typically makes. This keeps me from downloading multiple vids from some creators - and keeps me jumping on each new vid for others. I know we aren't all one-trick ponies (even I stray from romance now and again), but editors tend to stick with similar genres. Comedy and sappy romance, action and angsty drama, action and romance, dance and sappy romance - the more vids I watch for a creator, the more likely I am to label that person and make assumptions when I see him/her posting a new vid announcement.

4. Editor - quality assumptions. I don't expect anyone to outdo himself with each vid, but I can count on certain creators to stay at or above a standard level of editing. I have a few favorites who I know will always use subtitled footage, others who I know will always have at least half the beats in the song matched to some cut or flash, and a few I know will always have an effect for every single beat in any song (which may or may not be a good thing). I've yet to see a creator really dive below the standard I 'assign' him after watching a few of his vids. They may not jump forward improving, but they don't suddenly forget what they've learned, either.

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Post by Flint the Dwarf » Wed May 04, 2005 5:38 pm

Arigatomina wrote:2. WMV inflation = poor quality. If I see a 60mb wmv file, I automatically assume it's poor quality fansubs at a high bitrate that does nothing but waste 6 hrs download time. This is actually an assumption I've tested repeatedly - it hasn't proven wrong once.
3. Editor - genre assumptions. I won't name names, but I see someone has a new vid out and I usually assume it's the same 'sort' of vid the person typically makes.
4. Editor - quality assumptions. I don't expect anyone to outdo himself with each vid, but I can count on certain creators to stay at or above a standard level of editing.
Bah, those ones aren't irrational. I do 3 and 4 all the time. I consider them to be reasonable. :P

I like to think of myself as a very rational person... most of the time. >.>
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