HOW THE FUCK DO YOU BYPASS COPY PROTECTION?

Niotex · Post by **Niotex** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:40 pm

what? some personal attention isnt misplaced... atleast i saves one from the dark pit of WMM and VHS mixing...

YouTube · Post by **Kionon** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:59 pm

I declare this thread stupid by default.

You know, to actually answer this guy's question, there IS a way to avoid using a ripper. I have NEVER had a problem capturing footage from DVD player using my ATI All-In-Wonder 8500 DV, and if you do it right, you won't have to deal with interlacing (DVD player took care of that) or aliasing. And if you watch your encoding or have enough space for uncompressed, you get a PERFECT avi stream.

Really, my effing TV Wonder managed the same after I spent a little time playing around with it. Cost? $44 from wal-mart. Yeah, that's right, using some other means besides stupid dvd ripping actually can work. I know, I know, blasphemy. Shoot me.

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Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:04 pm

Kionon wrote:You know, to actually answer this guy's question, there IS a way to avoid using a ripper. I have NEVER had a problem capturing footage from DVD player using my ATI All-In-Wonder 8500 DV, and if you do it right, you won't have to deal with interlacing (DVD player took care of that) or aliasing. And if you watch your encoding or have enough space for uncompressed, you get a PERFECT avi stream.

Really, my effing TV Wonder managed the same after I spent a little time playing around with it. Cost? $44 from wal-mart. Yeah, that's right, using some other means besides stupid dvd ripping actually can work. I know, I know, blasphemy. Shoot me.

Bleh, I have neither
1) the space to capture large (near-/)lossless AVI versions of everything
nor
2) the patience to figure out what clips I want ahead of time

YouTube · Post by **Kionon** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:07 pm

Scintilla wrote: 1) the space to capture large (near-/)lossless AVI versions of everything
nor
2) the patience to figure out what clips I want ahead of time

1) We never do, do we?

2) Oh bah! That's the way we did it old school. Only now that I've used DVD ripping have I become lazy.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:08 pm

MistyCaldwell wrote:It didn't do it on your old tv? The tv has nothing to do with the copy protection.

Erm....yeah, it sort of does.

If his old tv had a built-in vcr and a 'line in' option, no 'copy protection' will stop him from recording dvds to vhs. Trust me. I've been using my tv for over 9 yrs now, and none of the new dvds have given me trouble.

Maybe it's morally wrong to make a copy of the dvds you rent, but I can live with the guilt. I'm still paying to watch, and I lose quality on vhs, so it's not like I'm getting something for free.

Zaphod_Beeblebrox · Post by **Zaphod_Beeblebrox** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:30 pm

On a complete tangent: Shouldn't this be in one of the Video help forums?

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:10 pm

Arigatomina wrote:
MistyCaldwell wrote:It didn't do it on your old tv? The tv has nothing to do with the copy protection.
Erm....yeah, it sort of does.

Macrovision. So, the TV is involved a bit.

Arigatomina wrote:If his old tv had a built-in vcr and a 'line in' option, no 'copy protection' will stop him from recording dvds to vhs. Trust me. I've been using my tv for over 9 yrs now, and none of the new dvds have given me trouble.

Chances are he's trying to record directly from DVD to VHS, and running into Macrovision along the way.

Arigatomina wrote:Maybe it's morally wrong to make a copy of the dvds you rent, but I can live with the guilt. I'm still paying to watch, and I lose quality on vhs, so it's not like I'm getting something for free.

Only if you listen to the MPAA. If you do, you're already a hopeless case.

Zaphod_Beeblebrox wrote:On a complete tangent: Shouldn't this be in one of the Video help forums?

Not a tangent at all: yes.

MistyCaldwell · Post by **MistyCaldwell** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:33 pm

Kalium wrote:
Arigatomina wrote:
MistyCaldwell wrote:It didn't do it on your old tv? The tv has nothing to do with the copy protection.
Erm....yeah, it sort of does.
Macrovision. So, the TV is involved a bit.

Hmm...well he didn't actually <b>say</b> much about his set up so as far as I knew, the tv was just a monitor and had nothing to do with playback.

Frankly, I still don't know much because I think he's said...two things in the whole thread.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:26 am

Kionon wrote: Yeah, that's right, using some other means besides stupid dvd ripping actually can work.

It can work but there are a number of problems that make it undesirable by contemporary standards:

(1) Unnecessary generational loss. Unless you have an incredibly good capture setup, the D->A and A->D conversions will assure this.

(2) Unnecessary interlacing, especially on DVDs encoded progressively with the 3:2 pulldown flag set. Why someone would ever want to do this is beyond me: not only do you lose quality, but you also incur a completely unnecessary size penalty.

(3) Macrovision. Some products simply ignore the automatic gain control signal; most don't. For these products, as I stated, correction is possible, but it requires additional equipment or different equipment altogether.