Configuring XviD details in Vdub

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Configuring XviD details in Vdub

Post by PDFarsight » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:29 pm

Hey guys, I've got a huge favor to ask of those who know what the hell they're doing. >.>

Basically, my computer is weird with Premiere (my version is 6.5 because I'm cheap and don't want to buy any of the new ones >.>). Aside from the constant freezing and crashing it's been working fairly well, or at least well enough for what I'd like, but it was never able to handle DivX videos. If I tried to import it straight it would lag, and then freeze if i tried to drag too much of it into the timeline. I would overcome this by opening all of the videos in Vdub first and converting the clip I needed into XviD format, which for some reason Premiere handled just fine. Well, I dunno if my codecs are messed up or if I altered the details wrong, but now those converted clips no longer show up in the timeline once dragged there. They play in WMP, they play if you just open them in Premiere in a separate window, etc., but in the Timeline they won't paly, which I find odd.

I can't figure out a way to fix this. I normally just use the default settings for the XviD codec. Anyone have any ideas to fix this? The only thing I've installed since making my last video is the animesuki.com codec pack, so maybe that's messing things up. Thanks for any help.
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Post by Pwolf » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:34 pm

do

not

edit

with

xvid/divx...

this is the exact reason why i tell people not to work with compressed sources. It works, then it doesn't >.< you should convert them to a lossless codec or use avisynth.

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Post by DJ_Izumi » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:22 am

At least way back in the day when I edited with MPEG-1 as a source, Mpeg-1 was easily readable by editors so as to work fairly smoothly.

...Except the quality was pretty piss poor.
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Post by PDFarsight » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:33 am

Pwolf wrote:do

not

edit

with

xvid/divx...

this is the exact reason why i tell people not to work with compressed sources. It works, then it doesn't >.< you should convert them to a lossless codec or use avisynth.

Pwolf
I don't really have enough room on my computer to convert lossless, I don't think... good to know that codecs suck though. ><

Can you point me in the direction of a FAQ or something that teaches me to convert a file in avisynth for use in editing? (as in, not final product)
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Post by Pwolf » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:41 am

first things first... how much disk space do you have (for the lossless idea)?

and for avisynth you don't need to convert anything... you just make a script that sits over the xvid file. it's a cheap and dirty trick that works /better/ then editing straight with xvid. it doesn't always work all the time either and is really really slow.

if you read the guides here, it goes over avisynth.


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Post by DJ_Izumi » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:32 am

If you're really efficent about cutting your clips to lossless you can get away with using 2-4 GB of space for the lossless footage.

Cause really, you don't need to do the ENTIRE SERIES in lossless, just the clips you need.

Of course, when I do that, my lossless clips are usually like only 5-20 seconds long. ^_^;
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Post by PDFarsight » Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:22 pm

Update: I looked at the guides on the site and downloaded and installed AMVApp, and I'm working with the Huffyuv 2.1.1 codec. It's got good quality and exports quickly, but it still creates too large of a file for me. I only have about 10 GB to spare, so does anyone know of another codec that creates a smaller file that works in Adobe Premiere 6.5?

Perhaps it's time to invest in a DVD burner to get some of this crap off my computer. X_X
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Post by MovieMarc » Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:32 pm

thats when you compress with vdub.

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Post by DJ_Izumi » Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:23 pm

As I said before, 10GB should be enough if you just be efficent in the size of the clips you convert for your project
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Post by gangstaj8 » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:15 pm

But then there's the size of the DVD's to consider as well as the clips. You can't even put two regular DVD's on a HDD with only 10gigs. If you're working from a single DVD source, you'd be able to pull it off though, just like DJ_Izumi said. Same issue with the AVS script plug-in for Premiere that Pwolf suggested. If you're just using one DVD for source, and you clip only the bits you need, you'll be able to do it with those 10gigs. Given, you'll likely have to delete the DVD files once you've got all your clips in order to make space for preview files, your final Premiere export, and a distribution copy. Otherwise, your kinda screwed without more HDD space.

PDFarsight wrote:Perhaps it's time to invest in a DVD burner to get some of this crap off my computer.
hint hint, wink wink, nudge nudge...

That, or buy a small HDD, they're not that expensive.
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