Is this a viable method of ripping and editing?

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Is this a viable method of ripping and editing?

Post by Melanchthon » Mon May 22, 2006 1:44 pm

1. Rip vobs, make d2vs.
2. Use AviSynth to make a low-quality mjpeg of each vob.
3. Delete vobs.
4. Edit.
5. Rerip vobs, use original d2vs.
6. Use AviSynth to trim the footage down to the clips used and replace the unused footage with plain black frames.
7. Encode as Lagarith.
8. Delete vobs.
9. Rename, move or delete mjpegs so that the editing program opens the Lagariths instead.
10. Do any editing that relies on exported sections of vid.
11. Export lossless for compression.

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Post by Ladymercury » Mon May 22, 2006 1:48 pm

Too many steps.

1. Rip with SmartRipper
2. Encode the .vobs in either DVD2AVI/VirtualDub
3. Take encoded mpeg/avi and edit

Why so many steps?
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Post by Melanchthon » Mon May 22, 2006 1:57 pm

Ladymercury wrote:Why so many steps?
I like having all my footage to hand during editing, but my hard drive is only 30GB.

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Post by Zarxrax » Mon May 22, 2006 2:32 pm

You seem to be on the right path, but that method is quite cumbersome and will be a ton of work to actually trim out the parts of the files that you dont need. Specifically, step 6 is going to be an absolute nightmare.

What I would suggest instead is searching through the clips before you edit and encoding the sections you need to Lagarith right away. It takes a while to get started, but once you have your footage prepared, editing is a lot smoother because you dont have to constantly spend time searching around for clips, as you already have them cut out.

Or a better alternative would be to just buy another Hard Drive. OfficeMax currently is selling a 160GB drive for only $60. If you really look around, you could probably find smaller drives for even cheaper.

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Post by Ladymercury » Mon May 22, 2006 2:48 pm

ebay is also a good source. I got a 250 gig external HD for only 75 dollars.
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Post by Keeper of Hellfire » Mon May 22, 2006 2:49 pm

Damn, Zarxrax, you were faster. I think making lossless clips is the way to go. I'd used it as I had low HD-space, and I still use it after buying a 200GB HD, because I find it easier to edit with short clips instead to mess around with whole episodes. And yes, it's right, that way you start later to edit, but in the end you save time because you have only once to get through an episode if you make clips and not every time when you need a scene.

So the steps are:
1. Rip vob.
2. Index vob with DGIndex
3. Make lossles clips using AviSynth and VDub(Mod)
4. If your low on space you can delete the vob now. Repeat steps 1..3 until you have the footage.
5. Edit with the lossles files.
6. Export lossless for compression.

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Post by Melanchthon » Mon May 22, 2006 3:09 pm

Zarxrax wrote:You seem to be on the right path, but that method is quite cumbersome and will be a ton of work to actually trim out the parts of the files that you dont need. Specifically, step 6 is going to be an absolute nightmare.
That's true, but the clip-getting part of the editing process isn't really skippable, and I'd prefer doing it in one go rather than having to rerip DVDs when I find a clip I want and didn't take originally.

For Step 6, I was thinking of taking the line blankclip(length=,width=[whatever],height=[whatever],fps=[whatever]) and copying and pasting and filling in as necessary. This would be done after all the clip selection, so I wouldn't even need to refer back to the video. Taking clips is the time-consuming part, and that's something that has to be done.
What I would suggest instead is searching through the clips before you edit and encoding the sections you need to Lagarith right away.
I'm not very good at that (I spent a while making clips in MEP of the Eva movie. In the end, most of the clips I used were ones I'd discarded). If I were, I wouldn't need to fiddle about with bait and switch. Anyway, if I know I'm going to use a certain scene, why would I go ahead and rip the DVD unless I knew I wasn't going to need anything from that vob?

Can anyone recommend somewhere that ships to the UK and carries cheap external hard drives? My laptop will take 80GB at most, and laptop hardware is bloody expensive.

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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Mon May 22, 2006 3:23 pm

Melanchthon wrote: Can anyone recommend somewhere that ships to the UK and carries cheap external hard drives? My laptop will take 80GB at most, and laptop hardware is bloody expensive.
Don't buy external HDDs, they're a rip off for what you get. Simply buy a regular internal HDD and an external enclosure (~$30US). As for International shipping, I know most of the major sites I go to for computer parts do not ship outside the U.S. sorry:(
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Post by Kalium » Mon May 22, 2006 4:56 pm

Any process that involves ripping twice is probably in need of rethinking.

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Post by Melanchthon » Mon May 22, 2006 6:14 pm

Kalium wrote:Any process that involves ripping twice is probably in need of rethinking.
I don't mind it so much if I can set aside some time for it and get it all out of the way. It takes a couple of minutes per chapter, but it seems much, much longer when I'm after a single clip.

Plus, I have a DVD-RW drive (albeit one that's out of commission). Steps 1-3 only need to be done once and then I can write the mjpegs to DVD and use them for future AMVs.

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