Adobe Premiere 6.5 Exporting

[BasharOfTheAges]

Create a new project with the CORRECT aspect ratios and see what happens. From what you're describing, it's doing what it's supposed to do most of the time and the times it got it "correct" in your opinion are, in fact, the times it got it wrong.

[BasharOfTheAges]

NINJA EDIT: That should be "correct aspect ratio and correct frame size."

[VEGETA_LSSJ]

@BasharOfTheAges, Thnak you. By "Correct" you mean - "When you export, you are using 1.0PAR, resolution of 720x480 and a frame rate of 30FPS." that Krisqo told me?

Create a new project with the CORRECT aspect ratios and see what happens

Man! that was good one! I cant believe i forgat to try that! i tried almost all and i forgot that totally...Thank you very much.

[VEGETA_LSSJ]

I'm really sorry, just two more questions about export and project settings please:
When i set in project settings - 25 frame rate, and when i export in 25 frame rate, noramlly it will be ok. But! if i set 25 on project settings and export in 30 will there be any difference from when i set project settings to 30 and export in 30(except the fact that audio frame rate will be increased and then will be some "double-tones/voices" which i can solve, and that is not problem) and will i lose some frames???

So if - 25 project to 25 export is lossles,
and - 30 project to 30 export is lossless,
and - 30 project to 25 export is lossless,]
than is it lossless from 25 project to 30 export ???

I mean does your timeline have the same number of frame-spots always, or it depedns on what you set on project settings??

And second question:
Can i SOMEHOW transport my project to another project settings? Is there any way i can keep my work and not to throw all my efforts, and to switch project settings??? Maybe somehow copy-paste??? or maybe by combining AP 6.5 and APP and After Effects?? any, any, any way??? please!

Imprtant note: I am makeing that project in AP 6.5

I hope you understood me, and please if you know anything of this please let me know!

[VEGETA_LSSJ]

EDIT:

and will i lose some frames???

omg sorry mistake, this shoud be like this - "and will there be some double frames?"

anyway this first question is a little messed up, so focus on this sentance -

I mean does the timeline have the same number of frame-spots always, or it depedns on what you set on project settings??

frame spots or how i should call it...maybe...frame slots...i hope you know what i mean...

i have some image sequences in my project so that is the biggest problem for me. I exported some sequences jsut to see if ther is any difference and i exported from "25 to 30", from "25 to 25", and from "30 to 30" and to me it seems like there is no difference from any of these 3 exports, but i want to make sure...

Anyway the second question is more imprtant...

[Willen]

EDIT:

and will i lose some frames???

omg sorry mistake, this shoud be like this - "and will there be some double frames?"

anyway this first question is a little messed up, so focus on this sentance -

I mean does the timeline have the same number of frame-spots always, or it depedns on what you set on project settings??

frame spots or how i should call it...maybe...frame slots...i hope you know what i mean...

i have some image sequences in my project so that is the biggest problem for me. I exported some sequences jsut to see if ther is any difference and i exported from "25 to 30", from "25 to 25", and from "30 to 30" and to me it seems like there is no difference from any of these 3 exports, but i want to make sure...

Anyway the second question is more imprtant...

I'm not exactly sure what Premiere normally does, but if you go from 25 fps to 30 fps, the program has to somehow add 5 fps to make up the difference. Depending on the settings, this may mean sped up footage or extra frames. The sure way to find out is to compare the videos side by side and analyze the frames.

I use Magix MEP11 and when I change the project settings from 29.97 fps to 24 fps, the number of 'frame slots' changes. Above the timeline is a timecode with the format of mm:ss:ff and if the project is long enough, hh:mm:ss:ff where hh=hours, mm=minutes, ss=seconds, ff=frames.

When set to 29.97 fps (30 fps), the count goes 00:00:00, 00:00:01, 00:00:02, ... 00:00:29, 00:01:00, 00:01:01, etc.

When set to 24 fps, the count goes 00:00:00, 00:00:01, 00:00:02, ... 00:00:23, 00:01:00, 00:01:01, etc. Same goes for 25 fps.

Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum allows you to set the 'frame slots' in the Project Properties on the Ruler tab. If set for SMPTE Drop (29.97 fps, Video), which I think is the default, the timecode is the same as my Magix example above except the format is hh:mm:ss;ff all the time. SMPTE Non-Drop (29.97 fps, Video) is formatted the same as Magix - hh:mm:ss:ff. Time & Frame is hh:mm:ss.ff. There are many other options, but the pattern is the same as Magix. I'm assuming that the non-Movie Studio (full) version is similar.

I can't remember if Premiere does the same thing since it's been a while since I used it, but I'm pretty sure that if you set up the project correctly it should.

[VEGETA_LSSJ]

I'm not exactly sure what Premiere normally does, but if you go from 25 fps to 30 fps, the program has to somehow add 5 fps to make up the difference. Depending on the settings, this may mean sped up footage or extra frames. The sure way to find out is to compare the videos side by side and analyze the frames.

I use Magix MEP11 and when I change the project settings from 29.97 fps to 24 fps, the number of 'frame slots' changes. Above the timeline is a timecode with the format of mm:ss:ff and if the project is long enough, hh:mm:ss:ff where hh=hours, mm=minutes, ss=seconds, ff=frames.

When set to 29.97 fps (30 fps), the count goes 00:00:00, 00:00:01, 00:00:02, ... 00:00:29, 00:01:00, 00:01:01, etc.

When set to 24 fps, the count goes 00:00:00, 00:00:01, 00:00:02, ... 00:00:23, 00:01:00, 00:01:01, etc. Same goes for 25 fps.

Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum allows you to set the 'frame slots' in the Project Properties on the Ruler tab. If set for SMPTE Drop (29.97 fps, Video), which I think is the default, the timecode is the same as my Magix example above except the format is hh:mm:ss;ff all the time. SMPTE Non-Drop (29.97 fps, Video) is formatted the same as Magix - hh:mm:ss:ff. Time & Frame is hh:mm:ss.ff. There are many other options, but the pattern is the same as Magix. I'm assuming that the non-Movie Studio (full) version is similar.

I can't remember if Premiere does the same thing since it's been a while since I used it, but I'm pretty sure that if you set up the project correctly it should.

Thank you so much for understanding, and for time you spent on writing! I'll try to compare two videos with the different fram rate, and i'll do my best to figurate out.
And that for Mgix MEP11 is an good example, so, unfortunately it should be the same for Premiere.
And can you tell me please, what is a difference between Non-Drop i Drop? I need to know when i start new project...

But there is one interesting thing, if it is like that, then probably options for frame rate(above project frame rate) should be unavailable in export settings. Anyway now i will chechk everyhing, and try to see any difference.

[VEGETA_LSSJ]

I'm not exactly sure what Premiere normally does, but if you go from 25 fps to 30 fps, the program has to somehow add 5 fps to make up the difference. Depending on the settings, this may mean sped up footage or extra frames. The sure way to find out is to compare the videos side by side and analyze the frames.

I use Magix MEP11 and when I change the project settings from 29.97 fps to 24 fps, the number of 'frame slots' changes. Above the timeline is a timecode with the format of mm:ss:ff and if the project is long enough, hh:mm:ss:ff where hh=hours, mm=minutes, ss=seconds, ff=frames.

When set to 29.97 fps (30 fps), the count goes 00:00:00, 00:00:01, 00:00:02, ... 00:00:29, 00:01:00, 00:01:01, etc.

When set to 24 fps, the count goes 00:00:00, 00:00:01, 00:00:02, ... 00:00:23, 00:01:00, 00:01:01, etc. Same goes for 25 fps.

Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum allows you to set the 'frame slots' in the Project Properties on the Ruler tab. If set for SMPTE Drop (29.97 fps, Video), which I think is the default, the timecode is the same as my Magix example above except the format is hh:mm:ss;ff all the time. SMPTE Non-Drop (29.97 fps, Video) is formatted the same as Magix - hh:mm:ss:ff. Time & Frame is hh:mm:ss.ff. There are many other options, but the pattern is the same as Magix. I'm assuming that the non-Movie Studio (full) version is similar.

I can't remember if Premiere does the same thing since it's been a while since I used it, but I'm pretty sure that if you set up the project correctly it should.

Thank you so much for understanding, and for time you spent on writing! I'll try to compare two videos with the different fram rate, and i'll do my best to figurate out.
And that for Mgix MEP11 is an good example, so, unfortunately it should be the same for Premiere.
And can you tell me please, what is a difference between Non-Drop i Drop? I need to know when i start new project...And should i set DV AV 30 frames or AVI 30 frames in project settings next time?

It is ok if you dont have time to answer, you already helped me alot, so i'll do my best.

But there is one interesting thing, if it is like that, then probably options for frame rate(above project frame rate) should be unavailable in export settings. Anyway now i will chechk everyhing, and try to see any difference.

[Willen]

Here's a link to a PDF file that explains the difference between drop-frame and non-drop-frame timecodes: PremiereTimecode.pdf

Here's the important part:

When you use drop-frame timecode, Premiere 5.x adjusts the frame numbering so that an hour-long video has its last frame labeled 01:00:00:00.

...instead of 00:59:26:12 which is what the timecode would actually label the last frame at for an hour long video if you used non-drop-frame timecode. It's really only important if you are actually counting the frames or using them to determine time. Drop-frame or non-drop-frame timecodes only change how the frames are counted, it doesn't have any effect on the actual frames or frame rate.

Drop-frame timecode only drops numbers that refer to the frames, and not the actual frames.

[VEGETA_LSSJ]

Man! this really helped me! thanks a lot!