What ruins amv, no story or subtitled footage?

devilmaykickass · Post by **devilmaykickass** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:29 pm

Typically dance videos and action videos have no story. Excellent videos completely absent of story but with a ton of effort and innovation have been made (ie "Shonen Bushido). By saying that no story kills a video, you're killing off the majority of two genres.

So yeah, having a "story" isn't determining of whether a video is good or not. Subtitles usually mean laziness, complete lack of experience, or both, and I've yet to see a video that was good with subtitles left all over it. But I'm sure it's possible to make a good video with subtitles, if the viewers are able to ignore them, which formerly I was able to...until I started editing.

So yeah, subtitles definitely.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:40 pm

devilmaykickass wrote:But I'm sure it's possible to make a good video with subtitles, if the viewers are able to ignore them, which formerly I was able to...until I started editing.

So yeah, subtitles definitely.

I was able to ignore them till I started watching alot of subbed anime...

when i see a video with subtitled footage thats good, I want to tell them how to remove the subs mostly.. cause it almost hurts to see a good editorer that is either too lazy to take that extra step or someone who doesnt know how... GAH!

Aria Mournesong · Post by **Aria Mournesong** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:37 am

godix wrote:I have to say what ruins a video, what really REALLY turns it from a mildly unpleasent experience to a horrible unending pain that leaves you curled into a corner and sobbing is neither subtitles or no story. It's having inthesto edit the thing.

LOL, Inthesto has been HomeRowed!

Shinodude · Post by **Shinodude** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:04 am

subtitles are bad but there are sum amvs with sub titles and are good...allot of amvs with no story are good you should have said no concept not story XD but I vot subs XD glad I dont have subs in my new amvs and I dont know why that fuck people complain about on fucking logo heres a word for you!!! "get your perverted logo fantises out of your head" great amv has Divx logo like phenominon! so stfu about divx logos and get a real life!

megaman917 · Post by **megaman917** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:17 am

Logos - They don't bother me.
Subtitles - Try my best to ignore them.
Format (wmv, mpg, avi) - As long as it's not .mov, .rm, or other similar formats/codecs that only open up in Quicktime or RealPlayer, it doesn't really matter to me.

What ruins any AMV (for me) is a lack of concept, a lack of substance, and most importantly, a lack of editing. Also anime/music mismatches; (when you see anime/music combos, you're familiar with the anime and the song, or just the song itself, and you know right off the bat that they just can't fit together at all, and you know that it wont make for a good video, regardless of concept), but they might work sometimes, and determining mismatches varies from person to person.

I've seen AMVs with horrid quality, no story, and pointless subtitles, but they had a concept, substance, and good editing. One of them is one of my top 10 favorites.

I've seen vids with concept and editing, but no substance.

My vote: No concept, no substance, no editing.

mokulen22 · Post by **mokulen22** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:36 pm

I vote Subtitles...I can't help but look at them and it takes away from the AMV.

pinsher6 · Post by **pinsher6** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:15 pm

of course subtitled footage, it will degrade the amv ...

OmniStrata · Post by **OmniStrata** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:35 pm

I used to use digisubs. And yes SUBTITLES is the sux0rs...

I've made lots of story and non-story amvs and nobody's complaining.

Scandia · Post by **Scandia** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:56 pm

Both.

But subtitles kill the mood as soon as they appear (unless they are relevant or placed there on purpose), while a plotless AMV may take longer for you to realize how pointless it is.

HorrorPhD · Post by **HorrorPhD** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:11 pm

My vote is subtitles.

I've seen a lot of "good" AMVs ("good" meaning people have recommended them, they have high op scores, high hits, etc) that have no plot or story whatsoever, but damn, are they ever pretty. The edits are right on, the effects aren't bothersome, and you can tell the creator really put a lot of time in on the video...I enjoy those immensely, even though the plot or story may be lacking.

On the other hand, I've seen a couple of AMVs that had killer storylines/concepts that just got ruined immediately when the first subtitle appeared. It's always distracting.